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  1. #21
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    Blaetansa's Avatar
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    Blaetansa Skalsyn
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Dam archers are to damage heavy. Especially early on, it was dam near impossible to get aggro back if the archer stole it. If I don't spam enmity attacks the entire time they steal it from ya. They don't have to have to use aoe attacks, they just generate so much through their quick and powerful attacks. Easier now as a Paladin, but before I got there it seems like half the time I was playing pingpong with the mobs.(endless and continuous back and forth until they died)
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    We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

  2. #22
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    Sammich's Avatar
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    Silas Silvertongue
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I definitely think that the Bard (and other DPS) have a responsibility to watch their threat level, but could tanks pleeease mark targets? Even if it's just popping a "1" over the first mob, it really helps a lot because it's difficult to tell from afar which mob you're attacking. Otherwise I have to click on the tank and then the mob they're focusing on, which isn't a huge hassle but it takes my concentration away from the main battle. It always lowers the chance of the DPS pulling hate because they're confused about which mob they should be focusing on.
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  3. #23
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    Rez Valentine
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I see several tanks loose agro all the time to monks or dragoons just as well. It is just not noticed as much as the mob will only turn but stay in place instead of running to the DD.
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  4. #24
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    Steeled's Avatar
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    Conchobar Pridwen
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I agree with Rez, except that monks and dragoons aren't exactly aoe classes, and if they attack a target different from the tank, they're Doing It wrong.

    I gotta give a little credit to the OP, I have more trouble out of Ifrit's Bow, or even Darklight bow bards than I do out of relic + 1 monks and dragoons.
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  5. #25
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    Leafcore Haven
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    If archer/bard is AoEing, remember to rotate targets. My brother is a tank and it's almost impossible to get aggro off of him as a summoner or a bard unless I DELIBERATELY try to.
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  6. #26
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    Roric Slaven
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Its not the losing aggro that bothers me I can get it right back its the archers that run and shoot when they get aggro I tell every group I'm in if yo get aggro run through me I'll be waiting to get it back bont keep backing down a hall way continuously firing at the add especially if I already have a mob on me
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  7. #27
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    Ohthere Blackthorn
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    I'll have to stand on the side of the Archers here and say that it should be YOUR job as a tank to keep aggro on ALL of the targets your group is currently engaging unless Sleep was being used. There's a reason you were being given tool such as Flash and Circle of Scorn. There is really no excuse for a tank to hit one target and one target only when you pull a large pack of enemies. Yes, Bards and to an extend Black Mage and Summoners tend to put DoT on all the targets they're fighting. However, you, as a tank, should be expecting them to do exactly that because it's the optimum way to play their classes. Not saying that the TC is throwing blames around but sometimes I feel that people who play tanks need to learn more humility and think about what they could have done better instead of blaming everything on the DPS. And if the said DPS significantly out-gear you and is pulling aggro as a result, then talk to them about it. After all, those characters are being controlled by other players and you should always work out what the best way is to tackle content for the group you're currently in and none of that can be done without communication.
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    Last edited by ogopogo; 10-04-2013 at 08:40 PM. Reason: Fixed some grammar and typo since I wrote it on an iphone earier

  8. #28
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 70
    Good luck with chimera then, OP.
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  9. #29
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 80
    I prefer tank watch the aggro bar and aggro all the mobs. As an SMN I can deal a lot of dmg with bane & shadow flare. With tank who only cable of tank 1 mob a time, it is a huge dmg loss.

    Exampler: there are 3 mobs, SMN dots on 1 mob will get it down to lets say 20% hp w/o any DMG add in but dots alone. Image that apply to 2 other mobs, that mean by the time the first mobs die, the 2nd target will be at 85-80% and the 3rd will be the same, and I ll use bane again & shadow flare again before spam ruin. And when the 2nd mobs die, the last will be at 60% or 50% hp and then it ll die quick.
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  10. #30
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    Annika Mill
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    90% of the DPS are terrible and have no clue how to even read the party frames and that there's a threat meter built into them, but it so happens to be that Archers are able to deliver a lot of damage in a short time, often getting agro if the tank isn't on top of his game.
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