Feature Request: First Time Visit = No Map.

[Frisque]

I'd like it if the maps were fogged out until you went into that area then it would un-fog it. You could buy a map too, that's fine with me, but I agree, being able to see everything from the start isn't as exciting as discovering it for yourself. Hopefully as new areas are released we'll have that added into the game.

I support this idea.

[Randis]

It absolutely would not work with FFXIV.

The landscape segments keep repeating, you would get nuts without a map.

[northernsky]

Agree with OP, i'd like to have maps covered brfore exploring them. But not buyable. Only when you actually explore every square, the map will draw itself a part of it.

And the possibility to make marks (with text) on it like ff11.

I guess we can't remove what has already been granted, but why not for new incoming areas? Or just for certain dungeons and you could buy/quest maps for towns and surroundings?

The ability to "draw your own map" and mark it could be questable too, or obtainable via a type of guildmark or at a certain level of fame, for example

[DeadRiser]

Excuse you, I've actually been playing XIV since alpha and I've explored these maps a hundred times over, but thank you for your ignorant comment.

He's telling the truth. It's not as bad as people make it seem. When there are loads of people running around you, you don't notice it as much. The areas between 'zones' like the simple 2-way paths, have some repetition but it's not horrible. They just need to add some variation.

Seems like people still aren't getting the hint that OP is talking about future dungeons and stuff lol. Silly forum people.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

I think EQOA was my favorite MMO in this field, actually all fields. EQOA didn't have maps period and a giant seamless world and you could easily run across the world 100 times and you just may see something different every trip. Ofcourse it wasn't the prettiest game but because of that the game world was amazing. When you gave directions to someone you had to use reference points like the peak of a mountain or a certain type of tree or an area you come across with a certain monster camp and use cardinal directions. Exploring in that game was so rewarding because there wasn't a map, also they had stage coaches that would take you to certain destinations after you unlocked them but they would never take you fully across the map and the game made you run parts of the trip.

I would love for FFXIV to be this way but with so many copy pasted things that would make it near impossible to get around. Too bad I guess.

[Teknoman]

:/ Guys the whole purpose of this request was to Fog of War maps for INSTANCED DUNGEONS. The stuff we should be getting in 1.18. Not all maps throughout the game.

In that case I agree. I think some got off topic because they just saw the title of the post and went from there.

[Cairdeas]

In that case I agree. I think some got off topic because they just saw the title of the post and went from there.

More like they didn't read the first post. No one does anymore.

This is probably the most "Hardcore" Friendly Idea I've had.

One of the biggest thrills I had in XI was exploring a new place before having the map for it. Exploring new areas released in Expansions before anyone had the maps up was thrilling.

Right now though all the areas in XIV come with maps already explored for you. This is kinda boring. So I'd like to propose that any instanced Dungeon has Fog of War on its map the first time you play through. Just for the sake of feeling like "This is the first time this place has been explored.". After that the maps always open to you when you re-visit the instanced dungeon.

[Ilean]

OMG YES PLEASE!

ALT+TAB into YG to check maps is so hardcore!

[Cxplorer]

Not having a map!? Are you crazy?! This is the worst idea ever!! Im not hardcore like you guys ok! Why do some people wants this game to be like FF11?! THIS IS NOT FINAL FANTASY XI! FF11 was garbage! Pure and simple! If you still love that crappy game?! Go play it!!

[Sirtis]

More like they didn't read the first post. No one does anymore.

This is probably the most "Hardcore" Friendly Idea I've had.

One of the biggest thrills I had in XI was exploring a new place before having the map for it. Exploring new areas released in Expansions before anyone had the maps up was thrilling.

Okay, in the vein of only dungeon maps, there already is what is effectively fog of war, at least by RTS standards. What I mean is that you can not see beyond the scope of the minimap the locations of the enemies and what not. What I understand of what is being proposed, is that the maps for the dungeons have a black fog covering everywhere that is not on the minimap. This would be effectively the same as disabling the map and only having the minimap. Now it could be different if the region shown on the minimap is smaller than the area shown on the complete map.

Now there is a second idea in this which ties into the limited view. You want the game to track which areas you have been to and only show those on the minimap. That is quite feasible as it can be done purely on the client side, but that does open up the chance for map-hack programs. SE does not seem to like the client side to control anything, unless they are having a change of heart in effort to relieve network traffic. WoW for example leaves movement up to the client. Guild Wars does/did not (causes Rubber-banding).

I suppose if SE really did not care, but liked the thought of the feature, they could have a toggle in game for the feature. That way they wouldn't have to worry about map hacks. Or hide the maps better than what I have seen.