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  1. #101
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    AegisXI's Avatar
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    Sena Kashiwazaki
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Atleast make GL to 15 seconds, cuz 12 seconds look weird :/
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  3. #102
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    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Calypsx View Post
    You're also forgetting the fact that they have to be in melee range and have less defense than a dragoon
    Thats not quite accurate. Dragoons have the lowest magical defense, which is the only dmg you should realistically get hit by (AOEs), physical defense is almost never a factor, unless you are tanking.

    So dragoons are actually the dps class most likely to die.
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  4. #103
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    Caly Umbra
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    Thats not quite accurate. Dragoons have the lowest magical defense, which is the only dmg you should realistically get hit by (AOEs), physical defense is almost never a factor, unless you are tanking.

    So dragoons are actually the dps class most likely to die.
    Ah, thanks for the fact, wasn't aware. Don't they have a little more hp to make up for that though? I've seen Dragoons survive some things that wipe others out. Most likely their buff skills.
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  5. #104
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Calypsx View Post
    Ah, thanks for the fact, wasn't aware. Don't they have a little more hp to make up for that though? I've seen Dragoons survive some things that wipe others out. Most likely their buff skills.
    They have a little bit more HP thats true (around 200-300 at lvl 50, depending on gear) but the mag defense is significantly lower when you compare their dark light gear.

    At endgame, a dragoons mag defense is roughly 50% of his phys defense.
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  6. #105
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    UrbanLucrece's Avatar
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    Urban Lucrece
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Monks are awesome.
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  7. #106
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    Raya Kurokawa
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    Shiva
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Change GL to at least 20s and I might consider playing my Monk again lol.
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  8. #107
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    Neko_Shiroyasha's Avatar
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    Neko Shiroyasha
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Nothing wrong with monks. Just l2p.

    Only thing what would be awesome would longer duration to our GL but thats minor. Actually we might be too powerfull with 100% uptime ^^
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  9. #108
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    Mitski Zahard
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by savant07 View Post
    Effective DPS is dependent on each encounter. The only encounter where your "effective" dps of other classes might go down is Titan. Any fight in Coil, every class can pretty much output almost max if not max DPS. There aren't a lot of anti melee mechanics there and not a lot of Titan-esque abilities. So no, they are not HIGH effective DPS, they are low outside of Titan.
    Titan is not the only fight affected by mobility, and you completely ignored the indirect (but significant) increase in party damage from the bard utility skills.

    Rage and rant as much as you want, but bards will still be good
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  10. #109
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    Franklin Disarray
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50

    nope

    monks don't need a buff at all they are well balanced and can out dps most classes, you will notice a massive difference at 50 with decent gear.
    You can't really ask them to change the game just because you feel under powered whilst leveling, wait until you finish the class and get the af gear before moaning.
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  11. #110
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    Ulric Delkin
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    I agree. Monk's skills need to be rebalanced, because now some skills are useless or unbalanced
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