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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Quote Originally Posted by savant07 View Post
    Or you just don't have a monk that can keep up or has a reasonable skill level as your top bards.


    Melee was designed to do the most DPS but also takes the most risk and skill. That is why making it easier for them should result it less DPS. That is how the whole thing was designed. If you all want it easier, why not just make one "DPS CLASS" and everyone can roll that and have the same skill and well, pretty much same everything cause you know, equality.
    typical QQ response Dragoons CANNOT out DPS a bard even in ideal situations... but that doesn't make then underpowered they are stupid easy to play. Melee know going into a melee class you cannot stand in stupid... However they still QQ that they cannot DPS without standing in stupid. If you do not like your class re-roll... if you are too bad of a player to make your class perform just quit playing.

    and BTW in coil ranged have to look out for as much if not more crap then melee does... So the risk thing is a bull excuse and every legit player knows it.
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    Aria Placida
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    Eckoh, you know you're arguing with the one person on the board mysteriously convinced that BRD is low DPS, right? He's been peddling this idea forever now. . .
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  3. #83
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    Chaosprime Zero
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    Had a MNK in AK and a MNK in Titan hard relic mnk really well geared and must say he was amazing. His dps was off the chart. I have had mnk from legacy at 50 but could never "really" get a good rotation barring DK > TSnake > SP adding in IR+ToD when available. its a flank attack. Once GL3 is up i 2x ID from the rear then repeat keeping GL3 active.

    Any advice to a up and rising MNK? Really like the job regardless of status just dont want to play it cause i simply dont feel confident in it. Dragging the group down either just makes me feel worse hence why i currently stick to SMN which is my main (and love it) but learning the intricacies of MNK would be very good and make me have options
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    Jessie Zilch
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    GL is the only nuisance, everything else is fine. As GL is a stacking buff, let it drop off one by one instead of all 3 at once.
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    Risbyn Marujido
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Eckoh, you know you're arguing with the one person on the board mysteriously convinced that BRD is low DPS, right? He's been peddling this idea forever now. . .
    As opposed to people convinced that Bard is TOP DPS?
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanZilch View Post
    GL is the only nuisance, everything else is fine. As GL is a stacking buff, let it drop off one by one instead of all 3 at once.
    Noob question, but how does one go from losing all 3 in one motion or losing them 1 by 1? certain actions reset GL?
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  7. #87
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    Alyssin Kiger
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Noob question, but how does one go from losing all 3 in one motion or losing them 1 by 1? certain actions reset GL?
    Timer on them runs out. I believe it's a 10s upkeep and basically any AoE avoidance will cause you to lose the 3 stacks. Building them back up is where the DPS loss comes in.
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  8. #88
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    Xell Boat
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16bitBounty View Post
    Timer on them runs out. I believe it's a 10s upkeep and basically any AoE avoidance will cause you to lose the 3 stacks. Building them back up is where the DPS loss comes in.
    This is not accurate. It's a 12s timer. Also, very few AoEs will force you to lose stacks. The exception is when you try to fit in 5 or 6 gcds into your rotation. If you are just doing 3-4, almost every Aoe gives you enough breathing room to run in and out in time.
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  9. #89
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    Ashen Valanar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    typical QQ response Dragoons CANNOT out DPS a bard even in ideal situations... but that doesn't make then underpowered they are stupid easy to play. Melee know going into a melee class you cannot stand in stupid... However they still QQ that they cannot DPS without standing in stupid. If you do not like your class re-roll... if you are too bad of a player to make your class perform just quit playing.

    and BTW in coil ranged have to look out for as much if not more crap then melee does... So the risk thing is a bull excuse and every legit player knows it.
    Again, you probably just have shitty monks in your FC or group. Find a good monk and he/she will outdps you by a huge margin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Eckoh, you know you're arguing with the one person on the board mysteriously convinced that BRD is low DPS, right? He's been peddling this idea forever now. . .
    Bards are low dps. Good lord, people thinking otherwise are just ignorant or plain stupid to think otherwise. Find good players of each DPS class and do some actual testing rather than actually claiming they are good dps just because the forum QQ is strong on a specific class.
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