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  1. #131
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    @allyrion: i will say why not, if the thief class was not in the way to come in the game. what will be the difference between the two class? the weapon used, the fact that thief can steal? this will be the same fast paced fighting class using side and behind attack.
    that the whole point, they need to make each class feel different!
    we are not asking for a combo system coming from the street fighter game, but that they deepen the one they have create for the monk.

    other point you say, that you want to turn around the target and all, but that mostly a thing from solo game and is not possible to do it, since we have no frontal skill!
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  2. #132
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    Fabian Wafflemeister
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    All i say is monk doesn't need a boost, just make GL duration go from 12 secs to 15-18secs and most of the subtle distractions from fights won't interrupt your flow. I get that the primals interrupt your GL with their grand attacks but thats not the worst of it, i mean with 410 skill speed in GL 1 i have 1-2 secs to refresh the ability and in GL 3 i have 4-5 secs but the mobs moves, uses an area attack or uses something that distracts you for more than that and you lose it.

    Other than that I haven't seen any use of fists of wind. And one inch punch is a great ability but there is almost no mob to use it on.

    Edit: Oh yeah Chi Blast for ranged attack would be great
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    Last edited by Waffilicious; 10-12-2013 at 07:16 AM.

  3. #133
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    Neo Anderson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffilicious View Post
    All i say is monk doesn't need a boost, just make GL duration go from 12 secs to 15-18secs

    Other than that I haven't seen any use of fists of wind. And one inch punch is a great ability but there is almost no mob to use it on.

    Edit: Oh yeah Chi Blast for ranged attack would be great
    When you say so you need some fact.
    if you can't maintain gl3 in 12 sec , I doubt there was any magic Chang if they increase gl to 15 sec.
    You should know monk dummy test isn't that great compare with other job. I would rather they reduce gl buff maintain time to 8 sec but increase monk crit Dmg by another 30%. Monk should be the class with fastest attack in potential and big crit Dmg if lucky.
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  4. #134
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    Fabian Wafflemeister
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    I wasn't saying anything about a dummy test, it's the timer i see when i'm fighting Garuda HM so often in that fight by 1-2 secs late of hitting her i lose GL 3
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  5. #135
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    Louis Victor
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    When you say so you need some fact.
    if you can't maintain gl3 in 12 sec , I doubt there was any magic Chang if they increase gl to 15 sec.
    You should know monk dummy test isn't that great compare with other job. I would rather they reduce gl buff maintain time to 8 sec but increase monk crit Dmg by another 30%. Monk should be the class with fastest attack in potential and big crit Dmg if lucky.
    there would be change. i notice a lot of times my gl stacks fall 1-2s before titan jumps down again. 3s would be helpful.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokee View Post
    there would be change. i notice a lot of times my gl stacks fall 1-2s before titan jumps down again. 3s would be helpful.
    That is just a Titan fight, how many times you need your monk for Titan fight in a life time of this game? what change I like to see is MNK DPS should be comparable with other class without gl. With gl, monk should do much more DPS than other class and make gl harder to maintain.
    Right now the design is with gl MNK DPS comparable with other class, w/o gl, MNK DPS performance is far below other DPS.
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  7. #137
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    This is a repeating trend in mmos. classes that require movement always suffer because they are hard to balance and still make them unique. This is seen in wow with enhance shamans. Because of movement and lack of a proper gap closer the class was left behind for almost 2 expansions. Monks require positioning upkeep of buffs and close proximity to be affective. Due to this they are not an easy class to play but the rewards are pretty high to being successful. Yes you could make it easier but it would take away from the skill level some players like and the pace that we like. I love micro managing lots of skills for max dps I hate playing casters and just hitting procs. Its all down to perspective of what you want in a class although yes some skills can and will be reworked.
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  8. #138
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    Warren Slassi
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    Why Monks need a Buff + Petition!

    This is why people that don't understand monk shouldn't play it. Shoulder tackle is pretty useful to get to other objects, and use as an opening stun on mobs that love to cast spells/abilities at the start, i use this ability frequently at level 50, especially inside of AK and some primal fights, that movement speed can be the difference between keeping up your stacks. Most fights, I'm usually near the top of every hate list, and that is a combination of knowing how to play the class and using skills effectively. Only thing i could ask for is a shorter cooldown on shoulder tackle
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    Gwendolen Delluvierre
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    I think a fair boost to shoulder tackle would be a 50% chance to reset the cd after a killing blow. That way we could use it for faster movement when soloing, but it wouldnt be much of op movement buff for boss fights.
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  10. #140
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    Yoko Ceres
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Shoulder Tackle is already bugged, when you use it on a moving target (directed at you ?) it does not consume the skill and you still get close to it.
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    Il est possible de dépassé la limite des 1ooo caractères, il suffit d'éditer son post ~

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