Help translating my character name to Roegadyn

[LPLIVETV]

I'd like to figure out the translation for Wandering Adventurer to Roegadyn. So far the only word I've found is Wandering, which is Eyri, but I can't comprehend how to form Adventurer from what is given me in the naming conventions thread.

Any help please?

[Junah]

Sorry, going to have to break this up into two posts.

So, Roegadyn names! I love 'em.

Well, as I see it, you have two options: 1. create a metaphorical compound word out of what we have now, or 2. make up a new word based on Germanic roots (we kind of have permission to do that according to the naming conventions).

For option 1, here's a small list to get you started on potential compounds:

Aerg - ambitious (a)
Agynn - beginning (n)
Ahrm - arm (n)
Bhald - bold/brave (a)
Dyn - people (n)
Firk - explore (v)
Gyft - sell (v)
Hort - treasure (n)
Hyr - army (n)
Itar - knight (n)
Jaeg - hunt (v)
Kympf - champion (an)
Laent - land (n)
Mann - man (n)
Moeg - able (a)
Swerd - sword (n)
Syhr - fearless (a)
Troeg - monster (n)

Maybe something like Hortjaega (treasure hunter), Dynitar (people's knight), Gyftswerd (sellsword--the first adventurers were former mercenaries), or something even more metaphorical if you want to go digging through the dictionary.

[Junah]

For option 2, here is an Old High German dictionary, which is supposed to be what the Roegadyn language was based on (you'll want to look at pages 148+)...sorry, this was the best I could find. :/

Or you could use modern German, where the word for "adventure" is Abenteuer (ah-ben-toy-ah, more or less). Not sure how to best modify that to make it sound Roegadyn, though.

The biggest issue is keeping the name short enough to fit the limits. It can be hard with Roegadyn names! I know from experience...If you're just going with two words, though, you'll be fine.

Hope that helps!

[Anonymoose]

"Adventurer" is tough because the term (aventiure) was borrowed directly from French in Middle High German.

[LPLIVETV]

Bloody hell, that's a lot to work with. Seeing the Adventurers' Guild was established by a mercenary officer to bring his companions together to aid the realm of Eorzea, essentially being sellswords, I can definitely see something gong in that direction.

Would anyone have an translation for 'mercenary' into Roegadyn?



I have to admit I like the Middle High German word abenteuer taken from aventiure. While it isn't Old High German, I have no qualms trying to modify this into Roegadyn for my purposes. I'm no loremonger and definitely not learned in linguistics, but I see it as an evolution of the language from Old High to Middle High, and can't find argument to believe in a fantasy setting that it could easily translate into Roegadyn for this purpose. I'd think if this weren't desirable the Dev team would have provided a more complete Roegadyn dictionary, but this would be beyond the scope of this game, and therefore I can't see any reasons to reject taking this direction. A lot of words to make me sound smart, though I'm not, so...

For instance, concerning the Roegadyn Dictionary provided, it is said, 'The term “known” is used here because many Roegadyn words have been forgotten after generations of disuse, with only popular terms being passed down through names. Every so often, however, a new (or should I say old) word is rediscovered in an ancient tome and added to the list for further generations to use (or ignore).' (source)

I'll look into modifying abenteuer into Roegadyn. Any halp would be appreciated, since this isn't my forte, but I'll definitely be looking into this.

Thanks all.

[LPLIVETV]

Old High German is closely related to Old English from what I've gathered. Again, I'm not into linguistics.

Adventure in Middle English can be translated as anter. This seems close to what a Roegadyn word would sound like I think. Could this somehow be made more Old English sounding? Am I even going in the right direction here?

Bah, where to go from here?

[Junah]

How about something like Abhentyra? Looks pretty Roegadyn. You could say it was originally an Elezen word that the Roegadyn borrowed at one point, since the Elezen language was inspired by French.

Say one particular Roegadyn sailor traveled to Eorzea many centuries ago and learned to speak with the Elezen he met there. He liked the sound of that word, though he couldn't pronounce it the way they did. He wrote it down in his journal, which was lost after his death, but it has been rediscovered recently and the word along with it.

Or something.

[LPLIVETV]

Thank you for your help. Using your above example, and what I've found from the Old High German dictionary you linked for me, I'be come to the personal conclusion that something like Eyriabhentyr best suits my Roegadyn name. The final entry on the OHG dictionary entry here for adventure is æfin-týr, which closely resembles your above example of abhentyra.

I dropped the -a from your example as I noticed many Roegadyn words that followed the tyr pattern ended at -tyr. The question I would have would be in regards to the entry I found in the OHG dictionary was for adventure and not adventurer, so would ending abhentyra be a better option? You obviously know these language matters far better than I ever will, so... I just thing dropping the -a makes it even more old language looking and sounding.

Firstly, could you provide me your opinions on my choice for a Roegadyn translation for Wandering Adventurer? Also, could you provide me guidance on pronouncing Eyriabhentyr?

[Junah]

Sounds good!

The reason I added -a to the end, though, was because of this part of Roegadyn dictionary post:

Verb -> Noun(er)

Verb+a
Braen (Break) + a = Braena (Breaker)

Ex: Aisbraena (Ice Breaker)

But I can understand you not wanting to use it if you dislike how it sounds.

Out of curiosity, why is it all one word? Is it going to be only one of your two names?

As for pronunciation...well, as a person with a background in linguistics, particularly German, I have some very different opinions on how things should be pronounced than what's written in the naming conventions guide.

But I'll get over it because it's not German, it's just inspired by German. And maybe the Roegadyn themselves are mispronouncing the words, since their language is dead. So we'll go with the official pronunciation.

So according to the guide, the h in this case is silent and the y is a long ee sound. So Eyri would be "ay-ree" and Abhentyr would be "ah-ben-teer."

Grrr, post length restrictions.

[LPLIVETV]

Thanks for the pronunciation guide.

Also, thanks for explaining your reasoning behind adding the -a, which only makes sense. I prefer it without the -a, however, I also want to stick as close to 'old language' as I can. While adventurer, or abhentyra, isn't in the list of known words, and all this is really just a shot in the dark, using the -a only keeps to the lore.

With that said, how would you pronounce it with the -a? "-ah"?

And I combined them because that's how the names are formed, are they not? From the naming conventions post:

Sea Wolf names are actually all formed from two words taken from the ancient Roegadyn language that the race's ancestors spoke before they came to Eorzea. For example, Ahldskyf is a combination of Ahld (meaning 'old') and Skyf (meaning ‘ship’). Rostnsthal is a combination of Rostn (rusty) and Sthal (steel). Pronunciation of the names can be a bit easier after splitting the name into its two parts: Ahld + skyf (read "ald-skeeff").

- Greintoum (grein + toum = bronze dream)
- Mytemyrgan (myte + myrgan = middle morning)
- Ahtmhas (aht + mhas = eight scars)

Eyriabhentyra (eyri + abhentyra = wandering adventurer)

I am asking all this because I will be remaking my character using the Fantasia from my veteran rewards to change my appearance to a Sea Wolf Roegadyn. While the Sea Wolves use their old language names, it is not uncommon for them to also use a modern Eorzean name since the old language is difficult to pronounce. From a roleplaying standpoint, my real name will be Eyriabhentyra, but will be known as Wandering Adventurer to those unable to pronounce or remember my real name.

As far as name conventions in-game, I will remain Wandering Adventurer so I don't have to reroll for the dozenth time. In my search options I will list my name as Eyriabhentyra.

I hope I did all this right! I really do appreciate your help. It has been a godssend.