Elitist Much?!

[Archona]

HM Titan is absolutely a gear check. Denying this helps nobody.

Tanks need HP to survive Mountain Buster
DPS need dmg to break Heart
Heals need magic to heal Tumults.
You need to end the encounter before the stacking Tumults become too much to handle. Nobody can survive this fight indefinitely.

Can one person in the party survive Tumult with 1500 hp? Sure, with extremely well timed heals, including using Swiftcast, etc..but he is not carrying his own weight in the party and therefore would never get invited to a group.

[dontcare]

HM Titan is absolutely a gear check. Denying this helps nobody.

Tanks need HP to survive Mountain Buster
DPS need dmg to break Heart
Heals need magic to heal Tumults.

And AF + GC weapon is enough to do all of this.

• Show me a tank dying to Mountain Buster and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using Virus/Eye for an Eye/Sacred Soil/Adloquium and/or a tank that isn't properly using his cooldowns or being topped off.
• Show me a group that can't break heart and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using their LB/cooldowns, performing optimal DPS rotations and/or dispelling the Goal debuff.
• Show me a group that's dying to Tumults and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using Sacred Soil/Succor and/or healers that aren't properly timing their AoE heals.

Gear is simply a crutch for groups that aren't doing the above.

[Vmage]

I think there's a certain point in the game where it is okay to act that way, that being endgame. It's optional, hard, and by then you rightfully should be expected to carry your own weight. I can see where it would even seem offensive for somebody to queue in with you and basically waste your time because they aren't prepared to contribute properly.

But I know you're not upset about that, you're upset about people who put other people down, and I hate that too.

so many times this

so so many...

[Deculture]

And AF + GC weapon is enough to do all of this.

• Show me a tank dying to Mountain Buster and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using Virus/Eye for an Eye/Sacred Soil/Adloquium and/or a tank that isn't properly using his cooldowns or being topped off.
• Show me a group that can't break heart and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using their LB/cooldowns, performing optimal DPS rotations and/or dispelling the Goal debuff.
• Show me a group that's dying to Tumults and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using Sacred Soil/Succor and/or healers that aren't properly timing their AoE heals.

Gear is simply a crutch for groups that aren't doing the above.

Do understand what this thread is about? Because it looks like you don't.

We 1 DPSed post-heart Titan one time when all the other DPS got knocked off due to Landslide (had 10+ Tumults at one point). Does that mean it's fine for DPS to just go AFK after heart phase? The fact that it's doable doesn't mean it's optimal. Keep in mind that the OP is talking about PUG GROUPS. Nobody is going to bring someone they don't know to a full on PUG Titan HM run if they're wearing AF gear and level 37 white accessories.

[Ryios]

Only one little problem, this isn't @#$@ real life $#$$, its a freaking game......so get over yourself! btw knowyone likes FC or LS's that talk shit to memeber's all day long because of a run or their gear.

I don't talk badly to anyone in game. I simply state the facts and "I'm sorry you feel that way"...
Also if I take this game more seriously, I don't need to get over myself, I can just not run with you and find like minded people, which is exactly what happens. So let's flip that scenario on you. If you have the right to play the game your way and tell me to get over it, then I have the right to play the game the way I want and you can get over it, my gear check requirements and all.

-to someone else
And to anyone who says this fight isn't a gear check... Obviously hasn't been past the Heart, or their group just happened to have awesome gear and they assumed it was sub par. I don't care how well you play, if your dps doesn't have the stats they won't get the heart down and you will wipe.

And for surviving tulmut with bad gear... You forget to factor something. The longer the fight drags out, the faster they go out, and the more often they go out. You can easily hit the fights limit point where the dmg going out is more than the healers can heal because the dps didn't kill titan fast enough.

Everything about this fight is a skill/dps check, I don't see how anyone with actual knowledge on it could think otherwise. And that's not even factoring in the laggy ps3 players and the toasters that can't get out of land slide, weight of the land, or do geoslide properly. It's really more on the lagger's/toasters etc that can't avoid stuff that kills this fight.

[Ryios]

Also, it would be cool if someone could form a group with All AF and GC weapons and youtube it, so you can prove this fight can be done like that.

[Misuto]

And AF + GC weapon is enough to do all of this.

• Show me a tank dying to Mountain Buster and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using Virus/Eye for an Eye/Sacred Soil/Adloquium and/or a tank that isn't properly using his cooldowns or being topped off.
• Show me a group that can't break heart and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using their LB/cooldowns, performing optimal DPS rotations and/or dispelling the Goal debuff.
• Show me a group that's dying to Tumults and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using Sacred Soil/Succor and/or healers that aren't properly timing their AoE heals.

Gear is simply a crutch for groups that aren't doing the above.

So what you're saying is... you absolutely need SCH for titan or you're screwed right?

[sasakusaku]

It's the internet and some people are natural born jerks.

a) You can tell someone politely that their gear is not sufficient and or offer tips how to improve their game. You know, be helpful and cool.

OR

b) You can be a total #%#% and insult, demean, and put down others instead.

Guess which option most people pick. Hint, it's not a).

[Elirion]

How else do you separate the men from the boys?

Not in a video game that's for sure.

[ispano]

Only one little problem, this isn't mofo real life bish, its a freaking game......so get over yourself! btw knowyone likes FC or LS's that talk shit to memeber's all day long because of a run or their gear.

Like Ryios said, you need to take your own advice. Just because you think people should not take a game seriously, doesn't mean you are right. Ryios' concept is correct, it's very similar. People like you like to say it's not a job, but you know, many end game activities are very similar to one. You have to WORK for what you want. Not just waltz in and have it handed to you.