Elitist Much?!

[ChrysaorUSon]

Ever tried applying for a Good job, "Must have college degree and 8 years experience etc", it's the same concept. You want to join an FC with experience and progression expect to meet the requirements, no one likes to carry someone or retrain people. There are entry level jobs for that in the RL just like there are entry level FC's in the game.

RL concepts apply to an online game where people are setting goals and using their time to accomplish said goal. It's not just a game because your not doing it alone. In a single player game, fine, play the way you want. In an online game you need to meet expectations of others to play with others. If you don't like the expectations of them, then find others with expectations you are ok with.

Only one little problem, this isn't mofo real life bish, its a freaking game......so get over yourself! btw knowyone likes FC or LS's that talk shit to memeber's all day long because of a run or their gear.

[Ryios]

Only one little problem, this isn't @#$@ real life $#$$, its a freaking game......so get over yourself! btw knowyone likes FC or LS's that talk shit to memeber's all day long because of a run or their gear.

I don't talk badly to anyone in game. I simply state the facts and "I'm sorry you feel that way"...
Also if I take this game more seriously, I don't need to get over myself, I can just not run with you and find like minded people, which is exactly what happens. So let's flip that scenario on you. If you have the right to play the game your way and tell me to get over it, then I have the right to play the game the way I want and you can get over it, my gear check requirements and all.

-to someone else
And to anyone who says this fight isn't a gear check... Obviously hasn't been past the Heart, or their group just happened to have awesome gear and they assumed it was sub par. I don't care how well you play, if your dps doesn't have the stats they won't get the heart down and you will wipe.

And for surviving tulmut with bad gear... You forget to factor something. The longer the fight drags out, the faster they go out, and the more often they go out. You can easily hit the fights limit point where the dmg going out is more than the healers can heal because the dps didn't kill titan fast enough.

Everything about this fight is a skill/dps check, I don't see how anyone with actual knowledge on it could think otherwise. And that's not even factoring in the laggy ps3 players and the toasters that can't get out of land slide, weight of the land, or do geoslide properly. It's really more on the lagger's/toasters etc that can't avoid stuff that kills this fight.

[ispano]

Only one little problem, this isn't mofo real life bish, its a freaking game......so get over yourself! btw knowyone likes FC or LS's that talk shit to memeber's all day long because of a run or their gear.

Like Ryios said, you need to take your own advice. Just because you think people should not take a game seriously, doesn't mean you are right. Ryios' concept is correct, it's very similar. People like you like to say it's not a job, but you know, many end game activities are very similar to one. You have to WORK for what you want. Not just waltz in and have it handed to you.

[Yurikitty]

Ok confusion about the OP, he doesn't even have a level 50 job. And being from Midgar myself, let me tell you the only shouts you see like that are for HM Titan and Coil runs. One of our BLMs did HM Titan 208 times mostly with groups formed on our server. So many people hit 50 and think they can just do AK and higher with AF gear and a handful of WP greens. Is that fair for the rest of us that have worked for our gear? Is your time more valuable then mine? I have a feeling, the OP being a tank, and a squishy warrior one at that, has been called out by multiple parties about his tanking skills. There is only one FC that claims to be elitist on our server, everyone else is pretty nice as long as you dont derp and know your job. Instead of lashing out at our server with "elitist" claims that read more like a complaint about how people are being mean to you, how about you just reroll as a dps, I think you might have better luck.

[ChrysaorUSon]

To be honest, no I am a good tank but i see these /sh al day saying,"Noob this and noob that," I am taking up for the little people. Think what you like (because opinions are like asses everyone has one) and I am just stating my opinion. I just get tired of seeing this shit across my screen, 24/7 really, and frankly it gets annoying. I know people want the best, but sometimes you got to improvise with what you can get. I mean don't call people out in a /sh it makes YOU look like a moron.

[Dire]

And being from Midgar myself, let me tell you the only shouts you see like that are for HM Titan and Coil runs.

I will call bullshit on this one. I am on Midgard, a Bard in full DL with an Ifrit bow (been farming Garuda for days now, no luck with the weapon drop; been working on Titan for days as well, groups just fall apart after several attempts). I've been turned down several times for CM speed run. I've shrugged and moved on, mind you, but these 'standards' ARE getting a bit out of hand if you ask me.

[Yurikitty]

I will call bullshit on this one. I am on Midgard, a Bard in full DL with an Ifrit bow (been farming Garuda for days now, no luck with the weapon drop; been working on Titan for days as well, groups just fall apart after several attempts). I've been turned down several times for CM speed run. I've shrugged and moved on, mind you, but these 'standards' ARE getting a bit out of hand if you ask me.

Well as one person said, bards have it bad on most servers because there are so many of them. And as far as being turned down for CM runs, you almost cant blame people at this point. SE has made only one place open to us for farming (yes I know you can AK farm but for fast DL its CM runs till your eyes bleed) Can you really get upset with people who want to run CM as fast as possible because they are already sick of farming? I will say it again, we only have 1 FC that claims to be elitist on our server, which is what the OP was complaining about most.

[Dire]

Well as one person said, bards have it bad on most servers because there are so many of them. And as far as being turned down for CM runs, you almost cant blame people at this point. SE has made only one place open to us for farming (yes I know you can AK farm but for fast DL its CM runs till your eyes bleed) Can you really get upset with people who want to run CM as fast as possible because they are already sick of farming? I will say it again, we only have 1 FC that claims to be elitist on our server, which is what the OP was complaining about most.

Look, you've been saying that there's virtually no elitism on Midgard (except for one guild) and that's simply not true, which is what snagged my attention.

I am in full agreement that certain fights require certain level of gear; I don't want to see people with 2.7K health and lvl 30 jewelry in my Titan attempts anymore than you do. That's not elitism, that's common sense.

I do understand wanting to get through CM as quickly as possible; frankly if I never see that place again it will be too soon. And yes, like in any other game DPS is overpopulated and Bards are a large portion of it. But the groups I am talking about specifically asked about my weapon (after I've told them I am full DL) and upon hearing 'Ifrit bow' replied with a 'lol' or equivalent. For a CM run. You honestly think a Bard in full DL with an Ifrit bow would be a detriment in CM? Really?

Again, this isn't exactly the end of the world for me. I am simply saying that it seems you haven't encountered this problem but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[MercuryD]

I agree with much in this. The way this game is set up, you CAN'T mathematically get past certain points without having X or Y gear; sad, but true. My beef with "elitists" are the people that when you use DF and say it is your first time, they quit. I know many people will say either that a) you shouldn't say it's your first or b) that they expect you to be experienced in it first. My response to these: a) I feel that is MORE harmful to my party, since they will assume I know the procedures and I will, out of ignorance of the dungeon, unintentionally cause problems. b) You can't expect a person to be experienced in something without first having done it. I watched garuda em videos before fighting her, yeah, but I only really learned it by doing it. This also reminds me of, "What do you need for HM garuda? Garuda wep."

[Ryios]

Bards get turned down because there are 5 bards for every non bard. Everyone and their mother is a bard. Bards don't have a dmg LB so people don't like taking two bards to AK or 4 bards to titan. Bards are so heavily populated that most people already know the bards they want to run with and already have them in group so if your not one of those bards they turn you away gear or not.

In terms of pure DPS mechanics I prefer 2 blm or 1 blm 1 smn, 1/2 brd's, or 1 brd and 1 drg/mnk in titan. E.g. you want a dps to be alive that can use a DPS Limit Break at all times. If you take 3 brds and 1 blm to titan all you have is the AOE Limit and the melee single target limit does more dmg. So ideally your only going to have 1 brd in a titan run. Blm/Sum * 2, Mnk/Drg * 1, Brd. Also, I try to form Primal Runs with 1 of each class to prevent weapon drops from rotting, if you do someone is guaranteed to get their weapon.