Elitist Much?!

[ReplicaX]

I don't find many of these ppl elitists, just simple-minded, entitled, and selfish.

Example PuG shouts I see:
- Titan HM, Relic only (not a weapon farm advertisement, for clear to get Relic)
- Amdapor Keep SR 3/4 WHM or SCH Relic Only. (Do you really need a Relic healer for keep lol?)
- Amdapor Keep need (insert jobs) Full DL / Relic Only.
- Coil Turn 1 or 2, Relic Bard geared and xp'd. (Bard has a Relic and is wearing 4/5 AF1 /w Keep Accessories).

[AdvancedWind]

I don't find many of these ppl elitists, just simple-minded, entitled, and selfish.

Example PuG shouts I see:
- Titan HM, Relic only (not a weapon farm advertisement, for clear to get Relic)
- Amdapor Keep SR 3/4 WHM or SCH Relic Only. (Do you really need a Relic healer for keep lol?)
- Amdapor Keep need (insert jobs) Full DL / Relic Only.
- Coil Turn 1 or 2, Relic Bard geared and xp'd. (Bard has a Relic and is wearing 4/5 AF1 /w Keep Accessories).

First example is basically shorthand for "We want people who have beaten the fight already", which is a perfectly valid request even if you disagree with it. There's always parties that do not require win proof shouting as well, join one of those.
Second and third examples are for speed run. And about relic healers, ever heard about Cleric Stance?
Coil Turn 1-2 "requires" silence and Bard is the easy mode silencer. Reason for gear requirement should be obvious.

[Vonleo]

Why are people complaining about the elitist? if you do not like them don't join them easy!! your complaining just to complain!

[ReplicaX]

Why are people complaining about the elitist? if you do not like them don't join them easy!! your complaining just to complain!

To be clear, my comment is not complaining. I find these shouts entertaining while crafting and waiting for keep. Especially when I come back and they are still shouting for hours on end.

[ChrysaorUSon]

Yeah, I find them hilarious! I'm like,"Hahaha! This dude been /sh for 5 hours!" lmao Lame Play the game to have fun, and don't do it like a real job.

[Ryios]

Blah blah blah elitist blah blah blah misused word.
Kicking a DPS from a titan group for having their AF gear on and aetheral rings is not being elitist, it's being factual. You factually cannot survive phase 5 tulmut with less than 3k HP.

"This makes people not want to join your shell or group or be your friend".

Good, if people have that attitude against us for asking them to have decent il60 gear from AK and to have attempted Titan HM or BC (that's experience) then we don't want to be your friend either.

Ever tried applying for a Good job, "Must have college degree and 8 years experience etc", it's the same concept. You want to join an FC with experience and progression expect to meet the requirements, no one likes to carry someone or retrain people. There are entry level jobs for that in the RL just like there are entry level FC's in the game.

RL concepts apply to an online game where people are setting goals and using their time to accomplish said goal. It's not just a game because your not doing it alone. In a single player game, fine, play the way you want. In an online game you need to meet expectations of others to play with others. If you don't like the expectations of them, then find others with expectations you are ok with.

[dontcare]

You factually cannot survive phase 5 tulmut with less than 3k HP.

Entirely false. Tumult damage isn't applied all at once; you can (and should) be healed well before 3k damage goes out. Hell, you could survive tumult with 1500 HP if your healers know the fight.

>HM Titan is not a gear check.

[Archona]

HM Titan is absolutely a gear check. Denying this helps nobody.

Tanks need HP to survive Mountain Buster
DPS need dmg to break Heart
Heals need magic to heal Tumults.
You need to end the encounter before the stacking Tumults become too much to handle. Nobody can survive this fight indefinitely.

Can one person in the party survive Tumult with 1500 hp? Sure, with extremely well timed heals, including using Swiftcast, etc..but he is not carrying his own weight in the party and therefore would never get invited to a group.

[dontcare]

HM Titan is absolutely a gear check. Denying this helps nobody.

Tanks need HP to survive Mountain Buster
DPS need dmg to break Heart
Heals need magic to heal Tumults.

And AF + GC weapon is enough to do all of this.

• Show me a tank dying to Mountain Buster and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using Virus/Eye for an Eye/Sacred Soil/Adloquium and/or a tank that isn't properly using his cooldowns or being topped off.
• Show me a group that can't break heart and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using their LB/cooldowns, performing optimal DPS rotations and/or dispelling the Goal debuff.
• Show me a group that's dying to Tumults and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using Sacred Soil/Succor and/or healers that aren't properly timing their AoE heals.

Gear is simply a crutch for groups that aren't doing the above.

[Misuto]

And AF + GC weapon is enough to do all of this.

• Show me a tank dying to Mountain Buster and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using Virus/Eye for an Eye/Sacred Soil/Adloquium and/or a tank that isn't properly using his cooldowns or being topped off.
• Show me a group that can't break heart and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using their LB/cooldowns, performing optimal DPS rotations and/or dispelling the Goal debuff.
• Show me a group that's dying to Tumults and I'll show you a group that isn't properly using Sacred Soil/Succor and/or healers that aren't properly timing their AoE heals.

Gear is simply a crutch for groups that aren't doing the above.

So what you're saying is... you absolutely need SCH for titan or you're screwed right?