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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    but you wouldnt be forced to reroll on an open PvP server
    Once again if they did not add only japan world they wont make a PVP world FFXIV and FFXI is about having all type of players together. Yoshi-p said no Tanaka said no so it not going to happen this is a SE game not aion,wow,rift and i'm happy about that if they add everything you want then it just be other wow clone "Final Fantasy Warcraft XIV" No thanks i don't agree with open PVP.

    Just add a pvp system like they had in FFXI maybe ship battle and what not but never open pvp that just pointless. top of that the lore does not support open pvp the 3 citys are not in war with each other if ffxiv lore was 50years back when all the city and race hate each other then yes open pvp would happen.
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    I just want PVP in some form. Hopefully a form that'll get more people playing than Ballista in FFXI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyndis View Post
    I just want PVP in some form. Hopefully a form that'll get more people playing than Ballista in FFXI.
    I agree. when they introduced PVP in FFXI it was popular for a little while then you would hardly see it. Only time I ever did it was with LS mates. Open PVP is tough to play in as a casual player, and going solo to PVE only to be ganked every time you leave the zone will only have more people leave. I like PVP, but not in this game setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clevene View Post
    I agree. when they introduced PVP in FFXI it was popular for a little while then you would hardly see it. Only time I ever did it was with LS mates. Open PVP is tough to play in as a casual player, and going solo to PVE only to be ganked every time you leave the zone will only have more people leave. I like PVP, but not in this game setting.
    No too sure how they would be able to pit the three nations against each other seeing as we are at this time all allies with a common enemy; speaking strictly of open world PVP outside of Ballista's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    No too sure how they would be able to pit the three nations against each other seeing as we are at this time all allies with a common enemy; speaking strictly of open world PVP outside of Ballista's.
    Then let me join the garlean empire so I can be the common enemy.

    I dont care if im hated. Just let me kill someone.
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    I think the reason some people are annoyed at Zenaku (I can at least speak for myself) is his obvious bias against PVP. What he is saying may be completely true: that open world pvp will basically never happen, however he presents his argument in an annoyingly biased way. I am a hardcore PVP fan but my unbiased opinion is that open world pvp will not happen in FFXIV.

    However I wondered what Zenaku (and he claims the entirety of the Japanese player base as well though I highly doubt it's true) has against dueling?

    I don't think open world pvp would work in XIV, however I do think -consensual- PVP would be a great popularity boost for the game, and dueling for example is as consensual as it gets. With an option to block duel request and dueling disallowed within city gates, I can't think of any reason anybody would be against dueling except for that they are simply biased PVP haters.

    Ballista's longevity failed in my opinion simply because of how much a burden it is to play it (SE's stupid scheduling of matches or manually gathering uninterested players etc.). They just need to make the PVP easy to sign up for, for example WoW or WAR types of que-from-anywhere-at-anytime battlegrounds.

    Also so that the PVE lovers and PVP haters don't cry, make the PVP have almost no rewards: at least not any that would be needed for PVE, so that the PVEers did not feel forced in any way to PVP. And, although I hate to say it, balancing (as with XI) probably should not happen with PVP in mind because simply, and nobody would probably argue against this, the FF MMOs are pretty much PVE games. However that in no way means that the game can't have really fun and enjoyable and awesome PVP that will bring in many FF fan subs whom love to PVP but don't play FF MMOs because the PVP sucks so badly (XI's PVP platforms and signup methods) in them or is non-existent (XIV).
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    Well sure, if you're going to be racist about it.

    But in my opinion, I think JP players are just as entitled to play on OWPvP servers as we are. But if you want to exclude them, that's your perogative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    Well sure, if you're going to be racist about it.

    But in my opinion, I think JP players are just as entitled to play on OWPvP servers as we are. But if you want to exclude them, that's your perogative.
    o.o wow are you serious let me explain this in a 3grade way

    "You ask for open PVP world only" I give you a "EXAMPLE!!!" That Japan players ask SE in Alpha forums for JP only servers once the game go live They reply by saying "no we don't want to split the player base"

    "Then i said why would they give us "Open PVP worlds" [Note: Which any person can join EU,DU,JP,NA,EU and so on" when they denied japan player base of the request of there own jp world?


    By all means how is that racist? please explain where did i said i don't want JP on the owpvp? all i was saying is they wont add a OWPVP server because JP got denied of JP only worlds when they ask for it in alpha and replay by saying
    "no we don't want to split the player base" Which entitles that SE would not add Open pvp worlds or any type of open pvp system or a dual system in the game because both Tanaka and Yoshi said no to this request.

    And Tanaka and yoshi both said no to the idea of adding Open pvp system or added PVP,PVE,RP worlds.

    Maybe you did not understand my "EXAMPLE!!" or you playing dumb.

    At the end they not adding open world pvp or a server for it they said no and it wont happen. If you still want it then play the other 99.99% of game that have this if this break the game for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    Let me do this to your bot

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTrfSH3mTtg

    If you dont want me to do this, you are a bot.
    How am i a bot? That game just look like other RIFT/Aion if you like it so much why don't you play that then ffxiv? I'm sorry that am not in to open world PVP and "SE does not like the idea also"
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    Let me do this to your bot

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTrfSH3mTtg

    If you dont want me to do this, you are a bot.
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    So you're saying Square Enix is the racist?

    They are racist to all peoples?
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