Bots are now teleporting from mob to mob.

[Roez]

I was in the North Shroud today to farm diremite webs and there was a person teleporting from Diremite to Diremite, so now bots can not only teleport from gathering spots but they can port from mob to mob? The person had a very normal name and was wearing dungeon gear and had a chocobo following them around.

There's one farming Fleece on Malboro, just south of Dragonhead in Coerthas. It started yesterday. If people have actually reported like they say, it's been reported a fair amount. My latency is decent (outside primetime where it dies) and I can actually out tag it if I know the mob is going to spawn in an area; otherwise, it warps nearly instantly when a mob spawns.

Since there's a lot of people looking to farm there, it's very right-your-face so to speak. It just supports the idea future games will start removing the ability to trade, and market economies all together.

[Zipdar]

Of course there are workarounds for gil spammers and now the farm cheats, but you can't deny that the cheaters have taken over the game.
I dutifully report every teleporting bot I see and every spammer I put on the black list (over 160 not counting the paltry few that became "deleted").
I still see them in the game weeks later so I know they aren't being removed.

This isn't just an annoyance like gil spammers and gathering bots, this is preventing me from actually playing the game.
It's simple to fix, don't create bottlenecks. Don't create rare/needed objects that can be farmed - put them in dungeons.

So 3 days till sub time, logon, have to blacklist/report first off, then have to report this new diremite teleport cheat on Lamia. So much fun.
Why do I pay to play a game that is riddled with cheats? I don't. I'm out, cheaters win.

I might check back in a few months.

[CUTS3R]

Considering only 10% or less of FF players actually care about PvP as it's obviously a PvE focused game, I don't see the problem.

This is stupid...
Its not because the majority doesn't care about PVP, that you should allow those who do, to cheat.

[Roez]

Wow that's crazy. I have never seen anything like what is happening in FFXIV in any other mmo. The only bots I knew of in FFXI was fishing bots that would fish forever by them selves and bots that would camp monsters and auto attack them.

My first experience with bots out of control with an MMO was early FFXI, when it launched NA. There were so many bots down by the water constantly fishing (they generated gil by selling fish and iron stuff to a vendor, and completely repeatable quests). It was one reason I left.

Since it's so obvious how badly they undercut, produce so much volume and flood the market, I assume those who support them must RMT/bot themselves. They destroy an economy very quickly, especially when they get out of control.

I've reported a lot of bots since yesterday, six at only one level 5 node. Most fleece areas have two or three minimum.

It's endless bots. Sick of seeing them.

[Kayo]

Don't forget the end-game teleport dungeon runs that some website seems to be advertising. They teleport from boss to boss and farm tomes.

This is just sad now.

[Seraphita]

I am actually doubting that there are GM's in FFXIV.
I have never seen one, and never seen one take action.
I see RMT's spam in cities for hours and hours and nothing happens to them.
It is god damn ridiculous.

[Umbrah]

there are ways to beat these botters as I did.
Lure over other monsters to where they are teleporting and tank them while the monster does AOE and kills the botter.

[Daas]

I defend FFXIV a lot. It's my favorite mmo but most mmos do not have teleport hacks. I don't know why and how they're able to do it in this one.

They exist in nearly every mmo at one time or another. Its how its then dealt with, and the timliness that becomes the issue.

[Amyas]

Aurum Vale also drops webs like crazy, there's even a chest that will give a random player 6-7 I think.

[Ryios]

Finding them is really easy with math....

The server receives XYZ Coordinate set one for PlayerA, then sometime later receives XYZ Coordinate set two for PlayerA. So what it needs is a simple algorithm,

Max Distance Possible = Max Speed * Time
Actual Distance = Sqrt(X2-X1)^2 + (Y2 - Y1)^2)

Now if the Actual Distance is Greater than the Max Distance Possible using the max speed, the player is using an XYZ Hack.
Actual Speed Avg Moved =