use DF why is this a problem
people set the bar when they make the party that is how it works
go to sleep OP your drunk

			
			
				use DF why is this a problem
people set the bar when they make the party that is how it works
go to sleep OP your drunk

			
			
				The problem i have been finding is when this attitude flows into the duty finder.
As far as im concerned when i queue for titan i expect people who have never done it before, i am prepared to deal with problems as i am also joining to learn the fight. a win here would just be a bonus.
so to wait in a queue to then enter the fight and have the tank exclaim to another member 'OMG fail group don't bother coming back until you have the gear cya' is not fair on the new players coming to learn the fight.
and if you want to do a pick up group put the gear requirements in your shout, i joined a group who shouted 'LFM 2 DPS WP' i joined and was kicked out without a word said, no 'sorry we need relic' or 'sorry you dont have the gear' just booted. and when i asked i was ignored.
Safe to say i will never party with that person again or anyone with that attitude, what goes around comes around and it would be nice to not have this crappy attitude.

			
			
				^^ I can attest to this, on Masamune at least.
I've only had 2 bad experiences with using DF with Japanese groups: once in Garuda story where the tank apparently spoke neither English nor Japanese (I tried both) and didn't know to tank away from the rocks. Another was a WP group that didn't speak at all and was clearly there for a speed run, which I didn't mind, except the tank couldn't hold aggro very well.
One easy way for me to tell if a group is JP-only or queued for every language in DF, is whether anyone ever talks or even just say 'hi, let's take this slow/do it fast/it's my first time'. The players in the latter group rarely do.

			
			
				It's a system of no fun for people just starting a new game to see only leetism players with everything bully players that just started and don't have things. It's something that needs to be dealt with so that people don't ragequit FFXIV for good. Time to stamp leetism out for good!


			
			
				This happens in every single MMO and there is nothing to stop this. There is a simple solution that has been stated here several times by now though. Form your own groups.It's a system of no fun for people just starting a new game to see only leetism players with everything bully players that just started and don't have things. It's something that needs to be dealt with so that people don't ragequit FFXIV for good. Time to stamp leetism out for good!
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