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    Taemek Frozenberg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terabyt3 View Post
    The ONLY way war will get 1k heals per sec is if you take a sample of 5 seconds where you pop cooldowns.

    You are completely using the term hps wrong. How on earth do you get 1000 hps..... Thrill of battle is possibly the biggest healer (outside of a crit hit IB with all cd's) and thats a 120 sec cd. So that alone (assuming a 1.5k insta heal from it) is only 12.5 heals per sec.......(1500/120 (heal ammount divided by recast) Where exactly are you getting the other 987.5hps from?

    Still waiting on you posting your alt btw.

    Edit: I just know I'm gonan have to explain how to work out hps more to Taemek so some more examples with rough numbers from my warrior (almost full dl and +1 bravura).

    Thrill of battle: Roughly 1.5k heal, recast 120s
    1500/120=12.5 12.5hps
    Bloodbath: 25% of dps for 30 seconds every 90 secs. Assuming Dps of 190 let's say using zerk and other things for average dps....
    ((190/4)x30)/90=15.83333 15.83333hps
    Inner Beast: Assuming that the average Ib heals for 1.5k (countin crits and non crits) you can do a maximum of 4.5 inner beasts per minute on average.
    (1500x4.5)/60=112.5 112.5hps
    Storm's Path: Average hit is around the 280 mark let's say. Heals for 50% and takes 7.5secs to get taht combo out.
    (280/2)/7.5 = 18.67 18.67hps

    There are all your self hps ability averages at 50. 12.5+15.83+112.5+18.67=159.5

    Assuming you get the perfect roation 159.5 hps is what you'll get with these numbers. So your claim of 1000 hps is WAY WAY off. Unless you're IB hits for 6k heals everytime..... lol!

    Ok, now thats out of the way, your problem here is simply being able to tell the terminological difference between burst and consistency.

    Again for clarification, YES I AGREE WITH CASPERS FINDINGS PRIOR, AS I POINTED OUT TO YOU but you seem to feel the need to voice it again and again like you think you know something that I don't which I already have agreed upon..../boggled. Yes, again, I understand its value when measured to represent mitgation OR eHPS. No I don't have to do any math or present you with numbers because your healing numbers already have proven that yes, *burst* HPS is 1k hps at which point if you were to imagine a trend graph, it would look like an ice pick where the period of a 2 second window it would *peak* to around 1k hps and drop back to what I am pretty sure we all agree on which is, around 160 - 180 eHPS.

    You are simply looking at it from a consistency measurement where I am pointing out the significant value of it measured in a burst measurement where you do *spike* above 1k hps where it matters most, the rest I am sick of explaining because you have proven my point on the reading comprehension ability.

    Key words here:
    Burst
    Spike
    Peak

    You guys are starting to cloud your own thoughts and judgements with too much math. It is getting in your way of simple english comprehension, unless of course, I am not explaining myself correctly, which I am pretty sure I am when I read back over my posts.

    TLDR; Clarification, I agree with your findings just as I agreed with Caspers, 3 pages back....../facepalm.

    On a final note, for the love of god, chill out man. I am not here to because I like the sound of my own eyes. I am simply pointing out that there is no consistant way to measure a value when there is many varibles in how the value is used or can be used. When you read a post from someone, read and consider the terminology being used before knee jerk responding. Try to think of the ways people are implying the value is being used or measured in a real world sceanrio. When people use terms like spike or burst, it is pretty clear that they are not refering to a consistant value of measurement.
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    Last edited by Taemek; 10-11-2013 at 01:48 PM.