XIV WAR Tanking - Baseline Mitigation and PLD comparison

[PessimiStick]

Disagree. By the time damage hits those numbers, regardless of Paladins mitigation, both will be dead due to the sheer amount of damage incoming as the Paladin's health pool does not compensate.

If there is ever a point that a Warrior is being one or two shotted by a monster, it will be the exact same for the Paladin.

Except that the Paladin has vastly superior cooldowns, and takes less healing to get back to full, meaning it's much more likely he will survive than the Warrior. They both have the exact same EHP (well minus the super-minuscule HP difference in the classes, ~85) under passive conditions.

The real questions are, despite all the terrible math going on in every thread:

1. What will both classes look like stat wise after Crystal Tower comes out.

Regardless of the answer, PLD will still be better, so I'm not sure how this is a "real" question.

and how Warrior damage / health mechanic will scale.

Not enough to match PLD's scaling, since they scale with incoming damage.

If you hear anything else in here, its just by people attempting to sound important using over simplified math with no hard evidence or statistical data to prove it.

Math doesn't make you sound important, it just makes you right.

[wonka11]

Math doesn't make you sound important, it just makes you right.

Unless its done wrong, which it is, has been, and continues to be on these forums - especially since we don't know how stats exactly work.

Again disputable. I think people have taken a popular opinion with only theory crafting and poor numbers supporting it (including miscalculations of how stats worked) and then expected something totally different.
I say give it some time, I'm going to bet Warrior does just as fine as Paladin after they both get geared, and good Warriors already hold their own pretty damn well.
The only thing people are bitching on is that they cant take two dreads, which again, is temporary, and for the fact that we're missing a whole gap range of gear and then trying to base an assumption on a class that requires the top level gear to reach what is considered an exponential efficiency/potential, I think it was way too early to make such a blunt assumption.

[Tronic]

Again disputable. I think people have taken a popular opinion with only theory crafting and poor numbers supporting it (including miscalculations of how stats worked) and then expected something totally different.

I expected to be more or less on the same footing as PLD when doing endgame content. Alas, this is not so, as I routinely get my ass handed to me in coil where a pally gets to live. Not to mention getting a tanking spot is hard enough as it is, since most people cringe when they see a war tanking. How are you faring in coil?

I say give it some time, I'm going to bet Warrior does just as fine as Paladin after they both get geared, and good Warriors already hold their own pretty damn well.

Time won't make a difference. As long as the present mechanics remain the same, there will always be a new dungeon coming out harder than the previous one, and PLD will always be better at it than WAR. Once you get Coil on farm, WAR will be great again, just like he is in AK right now. But by then there'll be a new challenge, and he won't be wanted there. It's the neverending story.

[PessimiStick]

The only thing people are bitching on is that they cant take two dreads

Which is a clear sign that they're flatly inferior to PLDs. One class can take that much damage and live, the other cannot. I don't know how you expect it to get any clearer.

which again, is temporary, and for the fact that we're missing a whole gap range of gear and then trying to base an assumption on a class that requires the top level gear to reach what is considered an exponential efficiency/potential, I think it was way too early to make such a blunt assumption.

News Flash: The PLDs will get better gear too. Guess what happens then: They get even better.