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  1. #91
    Player seekerofpower's Avatar
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    Virtuous Abyssus
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I agree that people should watch the cutscenes their first time, in fact one of my LS is planning to do a cutscene run of CM and Praetorium 1 time a week, just to get some new folks through. At the same time, all cutscenes ARE IN THE INN. You have to check multiple tabs, but I know for a fact they are all there. Once again, though, this is not an exceptable excuse for forcing people to miss them in context.
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  2. #92
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    HamHam's Avatar
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    Hamtaro Kakamaro
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I'm not new to these fights, and I have done CM more than 50 times and sometimes I want to see the scenes I missed in CM when I did my first run, but I can't because it's always a speed run.

    But peer pressure always wins.
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  3. #93
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    Alavastre's Avatar
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    Gerad Rabanastre
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I don't see the problem. I think both sides are wrong in CM. If you want to watch the cutscenes, go ahead. We don't need everyone to beat the bosses. You will be left behind. If you want to speedrun, do it. But you won't have everyone availible for the fight.

    Speedrunners are wrong for forcing people to not watch the cutscenes.

    Cutscene people are wrong for wasting everyone elses time.
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    "You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

  4. #94
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    Pronsolo's Avatar
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    Rasitlin Majere
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alavastre View Post

    Speedrunners are wrong for forcing people to not watch the cutscenes.

    Cutscene people are wrong for wasting everyone elses time.
    What???? /10char
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alavastre View Post
    I don't see the problem. I think both sides are wrong in CM.
    Cutscene people are wrong for wasting everyone elses time.
    I see its my first time to the content, and that part of the story, and I'm wrong for watching? I paid this all this money for software and sub, so I do not get to watch story when new to it, because the others have seen it already? The new person has a right to see the cut scenes without harassment and enjoy them. The other people are selfish, if they cannot wait a minute or two for the new person to see the scenes.
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  6. #96
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    Rasitlin Majere
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Solshine View Post
    I see its my first time to the content, and that part of the story, and I'm wrong for watching? I paid this all this money for software and sub, so I do not get to watch story when new to it, because the others have seen it already? The new person has a right to see the cut scenes without harassment and enjoy them. The other people are selfish, if they cannot wait a minute or two for the new person to see the scenes.
    Yes Solshine, im sorry but you are wrong for making people wait for a few minutes while you enjoy what you paid for, and continue to pay for on a monthly basis. You are obviously a bad person and should feel bad </sarcasm> lol =)
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  7. #97
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    Hamtaro Kakamaro
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Maybe, what SE could do is divide the duty finder (DF) into two options when a player is trying to queue. One option for NEW players and another for EXPERIENCED players.

    And while at it, make it so in the new player DF cutscenes cannot be skipped, but can in the experienced DF.

    Just throwing an idea out there. Not saying that it should be this way.
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  8. #98
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Speedruns in all the level 50 dungeons have caused me to have to do everything through my linkshells. No one wants to help the new player learn the dungeon. Especially in Walking Palace... which is made for new 50s to gain level i55 gear so they can move on to AK and do that. Everyone forgets that they were a noob too out of being self focused. If someone slows them down they rather yell and curse them than to take 2 minutes to explain the dungeon and boss mechanics.

    I wonder if these people were bullied in their first runs and just are continuing the cycle. I dont get this community, FFXI didnt have any people this violently angry....
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  9. #99
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    Asraphel Aetherwind
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 86
    To everyone about to try the two last story dungeon, DO take your time watching the cutscenes. I watched some and skipped some, thinking I could watch them later on in the inn. Well turns out you can't watch a lot of the cutscenes in the inn, a lot of important cutscenes are NOT added to the inn, ones that have very nice dialogue from the villains and such. I understand speed runners wanting to do their thing, but jumping into duty finder and expecting everyone that joins to also be a speed runner is pretty foolish, maybe you don't care about story in a final fantasy game (what?!?) and you just want them tomes as fast as possible, (or maybe you do care and you enjoyed all cutscenes on your first run and now are not letting others get the same enjoyment as you did), but some people do, and telling them to skip their enjoyment of the game so you can get your tomes 10 minutes faster (cutscenes in none of those dungeons take 20 minutes like people some are saying) is pretty selfish.
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  10. #100
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    Kailea Nagisa
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alavastre View Post
    I don't see the problem. I think both sides are wrong in CM. If you want to watch the cutscenes, go ahead. *snip*
    Speedrunners are wrong for forcing people to not watch the cutscenes.

    Cutscene people are wrong for wasting everyone elses time.

    your argument would be right, if your second statement was correct, "Cutscene people are wrong for wasting everyone elses time. " is not correct at all, it would be one thing is a person watched the cutscenes every single time they ran the dungeons, but they don't, it is just their first time, and speed runners are bullying them to skip it.

    Like I said before, if it is my first time in a dungeon, and I am using DF, I will watch the CSs you can threaten and bitch at me all you want. After that, I will skip, as I do not need to watch them again, if I want to do that, that is what the inn is for.

    I repeat, the inn is for REPLAYING a cutscene, not watch it for the first time -.-
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