Botters

[Airlea]

A single player if they wanted to be a dick right now could make 50 iron cuirass's and flood the market just because the mats are easy to get.

RMT are doing this. Ironically enough, iron plate is exactly one of the gear sets they've targeted on my server.

The mats, well, the mats are easy to get because the market is flooded with mats farmed by bots in addition to those sold by legitimate players.

It's a snowball effect. Say they only farmed crystals. That = cheaper/plentiful shards/crystals = cheap/plentiful shards/crystals for grinding = more crafters hit 50, and faster = more final products flooding the market. That's the ripple effect from crystals/shards alone.

It's basic supply and demand. Something I wish more people understood so they'd stop undercutting by 50% of the next highest price.

[twili]

I agree, I can see obvious botters and it drives me nuts. I've worked hard to sell items and set the prices at decent rate, which I know will sell. Botters come in and undercut and undersell the items by destroying the market by overflowing markets with too many under priced items, which make the normal crafter's have a harder time selling the items. I hope the problem can get addressed soon.

[twili]

I really do not understand how you guys can say that craft botters are harmless... When you work hard to grind your crafting ranks the sense of achievement hitting 50 is great and all but when you start seeing people undercutting you on all your products cause they actually did bot their ranks and so do not care about undervaluing their product, it gets really annoying.
Shinni is right, people are really starting to do it out in the light, in the middle of Uldah. What should I think when I see someone breaking shards in the same spot for more than 20 hours straight and then sitting there doing nothing for another 10 (out of mats)? If he is not botting surely he must have a hell of a lot of patience...

I am still hoping SE is keeping a record of it and will act on this issue one day once they have settled more urgent matters.

You completely took the exact words out of my mouth! It is frustrating

[kyuubi]

When I craft I watch TV or a movie and press enter every time I hear the corresponding sound. I miss alot of /tell's and hellos because I'm paying more attention to the TV and the same goes for a lot of my friends. Though I don't want botting in this game, sometimes people are too quick to accuse people of using a bot :/

[Antipika]

I hope the problem can get addressed soon.

Keep on dreaming. Never was on XI, will never be on XIV. As long as measures won't be taken against buyers, such activities won't stop.

[TheVedis]

When I craft I watch TV or a movie and press enter every time I hear the corresponding sound. I miss alot of /tell's and hellos because I'm paying more attention to the TV and the same goes for a lot of my friends. Though I don't want botting in this game, sometimes people are too quick to accuse people of using a bot :/

the only thing you gotta worry about is if you get reported, and you miss the GM investigation that may result from those reports
you can get in alot of trouble if you ignore/miss gm tells if they are investigating you

[Akuun]

My primary complaint about the special task force is you have to leave the game and go to a website that is imho poorly laid out and make a report there.
This is something that you should be able to do in game, and I'm not saying select target and mark as botter, as I'm sure we all know people would abuse this.
The current system is just such an interruption to game play (as it was in XI) that I honestly don't even bother anymore.

[Dubont]

Honestly, until SE comes up with a way to detect the difference between enter spam and "keyclicks," nothing will be done about bots unless the botter is actually dumb enough to sit and craft all day while afk (which most do, if you are RMT, because the game is free and they lose nothing but time and a couple of bucks for a new code).

The only real way that I can see them getting rid of these.... opportunists...is to allow FFXIV to install a program that runs in the background while FFXIV is up and scans for 3rd party software that is in correlation with the game. This, of course, will cause problems as many could get banned for simply running xfire, gamecam or (a more serious program) windower (no add-ons of course). I doubt the majority of players would allow SE to install malware on their computer just to catch a few bots. SE changed the UI and made crafting/gathering more complex so that it would deter botters and all it did was push more people away from the game.

[Peregrine]

Unfortunately they will probably fix it by adding a WoW autoleveller. Put your 300 iron nuggets in and bam sp bam sp bam sp bam sp bam sp bam sp.

Come back after dinner.

I mean really at this point the only solution is to make everyone a bot. The bots are already sporting 3 R50 crafts. Let everyone catch up before its too late.

[Pulseczar]

This botting witch hunt is getting out-of-hand. I'm getting sick of being blamed for it because I have a spot that I always like to craft in. Even when I answer their tells; these pathetic fools just love pointing the finger. Would love to BL them but god-forbid I don't answer their tells.