Botters

[Dubont]

Honestly, until SE comes up with a way to detect the difference between enter spam and "keyclicks," nothing will be done about bots unless the botter is actually dumb enough to sit and craft all day while afk (which most do, if you are RMT, because the game is free and they lose nothing but time and a couple of bucks for a new code).

The only real way that I can see them getting rid of these.... opportunists...is to allow FFXIV to install a program that runs in the background while FFXIV is up and scans for 3rd party software that is in correlation with the game. This, of course, will cause problems as many could get banned for simply running xfire, gamecam or (a more serious program) windower (no add-ons of course). I doubt the majority of players would allow SE to install malware on their computer just to catch a few bots. SE changed the UI and made crafting/gathering more complex so that it would deter botters and all it did was push more people away from the game.

[Peregrine]

Unfortunately they will probably fix it by adding a WoW autoleveller. Put your 300 iron nuggets in and bam sp bam sp bam sp bam sp bam sp bam sp.

Come back after dinner.

I mean really at this point the only solution is to make everyone a bot. The bots are already sporting 3 R50 crafts. Let everyone catch up before its too late.

[Pulseczar]

This botting witch hunt is getting out-of-hand. I'm getting sick of being blamed for it because I have a spot that I always like to craft in. Even when I answer their tells; these pathetic fools just love pointing the finger. Would love to BL them but god-forbid I don't answer their tells.

[Shinigami]

This botting witch hunt is getting out-of-hand. I'm getting sick of being blamed for it because I have a spot that I always like to craft in. Even when I answer their tells these pathetic fools just love pointing the finger. Would love to BL them but god-forbid I don't answer their tells.

Just because you got 1 craft nearing 50 people say youre botting? Sorry but its either bs or you dont have luck in your server.

Most people in my server mind their own buisness and the only thing that is out of hand here is the number of botters.
As previously mentioned i dont have only tought about some people botting i know at least 10 that admited either directly or indirectly to me using botting programs on "vent" (live voice chat).

[Pulseczar]

you dont have luck in your server.

It's not about luck. It's the pathetic *** that don't have anything else to do but go around placing blame on legitimate players. Sure, there are botters (I don't care for botters either). But just because some of us sit in a spot and craft for hours on end doesn't mean we're botting.

It sounds like your one of those people that don't get the concept that some of us are patient with the crafting system and actually enjoy it.

[MHB3000]

Accusations of botting is one topic.. but I think that this thread should continue the discussion on how detrimental botters are to the legitimate players and whether or not Square Enix will punish those who cheat.

With that said.. I dont want to end up paying monthly for a game where my biggest REGRET is that I chose to OBEY the Terms Of Use and the Final Fantasy XIV User Agreement.

It would be Prudent to have a legitimate response from the developers for legitimate players concerning this threads topic

[Peregrine]

Accusations of botting is one topic.. but I think that this thread should continue the discussion on how detrimental botters are to the legitimate players and whether or not Square Enix will punish those who cheat.

With that said.. I dont want to end up paying monthly for a game where my biggest REGRET is that I chose to OBEY the Terms Of Use and the Final Fantasy XIV User Agreement.

It would be Prudent to have a legitimate response from the developers for legitimate players concerning this threads topic

This is unfortunately where legit players are forced to make a choice. Continue to play legitimately and have the botters outstrip them in every craft by the time the game's primetime phase enters, or bot to keep up.

Because I gotta tell you: my faith that SE has a running list of people who have botted their way to two, three, four, all R50 crafts already and will punish them when the time is right: zero. These cheaters will get away with it scot free.

The damage is already done. Cheaters own the keys to this game's economy, and nothing was done, and nothing will retroactively be done to undo that damage.

The botters are smarter than SE. SE figures that they'll be caught eventually. No, they won't. They'll make hay while the sun shines, then the second SE starts dealing with botters they'll quit.

For this game to actually deal with the problem, Square already has to have a running list of hundreds of real players and thousands of accounts that are already going to be banned.

And they don't have a single name.

[Radaghast]

At the rate this game is going if the most casual player doesn't have 4+ crafts at 50 by the time there's a level cap raise, they either didn't play or didn't craft.

[Rentahamster]

I can see why it might be in a company's financial interest to be more lenient towards certain kinds of characters with minor botting activity since they are, after all, making use of a paying account.

However, in the case of FF14, no one is paying any money, so it's not like SE is going to lose income over banning a few hundred botters.

[Peregrine]

I can see why it might be in a company's financial interest to be more lenient towards certain kinds of characters with minor botting activity since they are, after all, making use of a paying account.

However, in the case of FF14, no one is paying any money, so it's not like SE is going to lose income over banning a few hundred botters.

This is why I don't understand why SE isn't being aggressive about cheating. They don't stand to lose money. They built the entire game to crazily combat cheating and RMT...and then the STF is nowhere to be seen the first year of the game's life.

Doesn't make any sense to me at all why they would torpedo the game with anti-cheating and anti-rmt countermeasures that end up making the game unfun for everyone...and then allow people to cheat all the un-fun content they built to prevent cheating.