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    threephase's Avatar
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    Keten Klynko
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 9

    sad day for this warrior

    i love the warrior class it fun as hell to play but as a tank alot of players rather have a pld as there mt. takes less to heal a pld which = less hate for the healer. war as a mt takes much more heals which = more hate for the healer = a harder time.
    been trying for titan hm got a bunch of dl gear that don't help nothing at all in titan hm. try to get in a premade for titan hm lol yeah..war lf titan pld lf titan there gona pick the pld every time.
    the only other way i can think of to get in a group for titan is get full ilvl90 gear and hope that helps.
    but as of now i cant progress any more with the war, so its going on the back burner and ill roll another class. sad day for me i hope something gets fixed or just turn the war into a dps class.
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    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Don't get too discouraged. Just have fun playing the class you like. If someone says PLD is not good as WAR just swing your axe at them.

    People get Bravuras all the time so you can do it. Changing the way you play to please others is no way to go through life.... er... in-game.
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
    World
    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I feel the same way, but I'm not going to reroll. No other class in the game interests me. After no one wanting to join groups with a warrior main tank, no one wanting to take a WAR along with a group because they already have a PLD and only want one tank, outright being ignored because of the class, unable to find a FC that does Titan, and numerous failures through duty finder because people can't stay alive via dodging, it's really frustrating. I've currently joined a FC and am helping them gear up through Garuda and stuff so that we can fight Titan together, but being stuck for weeks on this fight through no fault of my own is frustrating, and combined with the stigma against WAR I just may not stick with the game as I'm not progressing or having any fun not progressing.
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    Julius Caesar
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Noone wants a WAR main tank because of all the crybaby WARs QQing all the time about how bad their class is. They do it so much that people are actually convinced by the baddies that WAR isn't viable tanking any content when they're completely fine.
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    Ein Ara
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BattleShipSkyLobster View Post
    people are actually convinced by the baddies that WAR isn't viable tanking any content when they're completely fine.
    I love it when stuff like this comes from a paladin. It gives their statement so much credibility and gravitas.
    Speaking of which, the problem is not viability but undesireability for raiding by being a sub-optimal choice. L2read.
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    Kryzen's Avatar
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    Character
    Mazus Valefor
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I am actually rolling a warrior right now because 1) i want to see what all the QQ is about. 2) Yoshi stated that warriors may be even stronger then paladins and the community has not figured them out yet (kind of think this is his way of blowing off warrior changes). 3) banking on either mrd or gld to have DRK as their dps class
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    Character
    M'iyu Saito
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tronic View Post
    text to long to quote
    The problem is that people are complaining (and they are right to do so because warriors do need a some help) because going to coil and raiding undergeared showed some flaws in the design of warrior.
    The problem is that people pick this up and suddenly the "Well warrior kinda sucks as mt for coil after turn 3" turns into "mimimi warrior can't mt a single mob in this game".
    Which is fucking stupid because you can use a warrior just fine for that. But if the tank forum is all over how people think warrior sucks then people pick that up and suddently every lvl 26 jewelry scrub think he can tell a warrior he sucks and can't tank even AK...

    Getting into Titan hm as tank is its own story anyway. The best bet is join a FC and get buddies to help or make your own group and set the rules.
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    Character
    Medura Bloodspiller
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    A maxed out warrior is better at tanking than a maxed out paladin, but if youre maxed out, why would you still play? :P
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    James Carver
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Warriors actually do a decent among of dps now mind you not as much as an actual dps class but enough to hold their own in a slot in some cases you can help out a pld tank get more hate with your maim debuff. I don't recall where I read this but a warrior can parse around 200ish. Not to mention if a tank or healer fails and the pld goes down you can pick up Titan give the party time to res up the pld/ let his debuff fall off and the fight goes on. If I can do a group that has a pld, warrior 3 heals and 3 dps and kill Titan ( granted the dps where 2/3 relic ).

    Build your own group of friends and such and go at it with them let the puggies stick to what they think the party has to be and you will have your relic while they don't.
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    Character
    Mrv Light
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by threephase View Post
    i love the warrior class it fun as hell to play but as a tank alot of players rather have a pld as there mt. takes less to heal a pld which = less hate for the healer. war as a mt takes much more heals which = more hate for the healer = a harder time.
    been trying for titan hm got a bunch of dl gear that don't help nothing at all in titan hm. try to get in a premade for titan hm lol yeah..war lf titan pld lf titan there gona pick the pld every time.
    the only other way i can think of to get in a group for titan is get full ilvl90 gear and hope that helps.
    but as of now i cant progress any more with the war, so its going on the back burner and ill roll another class. sad day for me i hope something gets fixed or just turn the war into a dps class.
    you'll need a group that realizes warriors function differently than paladins

    the benefit is that during periods of low damage, the warrior can offer similar mitigation as a paladin, and maintain high enmity (inner beast vs. stoneskin)

    the problem with titan is the periods of high damage - but they're all predictable

    every landslide after the heart will be followed by his little cleave (rock buster ~1500) followed by his big hit (mountain buster ~4500)

    a paladin has a tank cooldown available for almost every one of these, a warrior is reliant on his group to provide support

    your healers will need to keep you topped off along with adloquium/stoneskin after the landslide, and you can tell all of your mages to work out some virus/eye for an eye rotation, combined with your bard throwing rain of death

    paladins essentially do the same thing, except instead of screaming for rain of death + virus they'll just pop rampart/sentinel/bulwark once they see the landslide
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