PLAYERS RALLY! - WE NEED AN ANSWER!

[BlossomRose]

The fact a votekick function is incoming is great news for many people. Trolls and griefers are aplenty in the duty finder system, after all, and being able to replace them will go a long way into making the system usable.

However, abuse is possible, and I'd like to be reassured.

New level 50's who queue for Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium want to watch cutscenes, and frankly this is OK. I watched them when I had just dinged too, and now I'm in full DL, with my relic, and some BC gear, raiding. Having watched the cutscenes didn't slow me down in the long run, and I enjoyed the story very much.

However, the ability to votekick people comes with a very real risk: a majority of players who use the duty finder want speed runs. They can and will use the votekick function to kick people out of CM and Prae if they watch cutscenes.

Please, SE. Find a way to prevent this.

[Haniale]

Players can't be kicked on first attempt at instance.

Not perfect, but there should already be a tracker for that involved, so would be like 3 lines of code. A good start.

[BlossomRose]

Players can't be kicked on first attempt at instance.

Not perfect, but there should already be a tracker for that involved, so would be like 3 lines of code. A good start.

That's an elegant solution, actually. Very simple too.

[Hiroradius]

Players can't be kicked on first attempt at instance.

Not perfect, but there should already be a tracker for that involved, so would be like 3 lines of code. A good start.

Actually that probably is the best answer, it always alerts us when a new player is in the dungeon, so make that person unkickable.

Also, maybe their should be a daily limit for a person to vote to kick, for say 24 hours you get to use this option 3 times?

[Haniale]

Actually that probably is the best answer, it always alerts us when a new player is in the dungeon, so make that person unkickable.

Also, maybe their should be a daily limit for a person to vote to kick, for say 24 hours you get to use this option 3 times?

Better to have dynamic timers. Kick timer that doubles each use, halving each 24 hours. People who need to be kicked are rarer than people who slow the run down, so this should help focus it on jerkwads.

Kick protect in the form of a wait timer, increasing each occurrence, again decaying each 24 hours. New players shouldn't suffer long if at all, mean players should feel the wrath heavily.

[Naberrie]

Where was this announced? Can't seem to find it.

[Volas]

Also am dying to know where this information comes from?

[Rabbio]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...85#post1360485

Was announced there as incoming at some point, but very light on the details. I'm thankful that the post confirms they are wary of the potential abuse, and hopefully suggestions like this will be receptive.

[ForteXX]

Cant kick first timer.
Cant kick within first 5m or so.
Cant kick after final cutscene has triggered.
Require majority vote (other than kickee) to kick (4 person=3, 8 person=4, 24 person=12), and dont announce it when it starts (the people have to vote from themselves thinking it needs done, or from being told about a person. not because the system said that person x has been voted on to be kicked).

[OrganizationXIll]

I posted this on another thread, but this applies here just as well.

1) You have to have 75% of the votes. If its a 4 man dungeon it has to be unanimous; in an 8 man, 6 out of the 8 are required; in 24 man you have to have 18 of the votes.
2) New players cannot be kicked no matter what. Their name doesn't appear in the kick list.
3) You only get 3 kicks a day. That way it limits what the elitist will vote for.
4) If you get kicked you are warned. Twice in a day you are locked for 15 minutes. Three times an hour. On the fourth time you are locked out until a set time per region. (EX: 8:00 am PST)
5) If you kick someone you have the option to leave a highly censored message 25 characters or less that are visible on the Duty Finder screen of the kicked player until a check box is marked. Any locked out time (see above) doesn't start until this check box is checked.