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Thread: SMN Rotation

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    SMN Rotation

    I'm curious on what other peoples rotations are and if I should actually use Thunder in mine. SMN is already lacking in useful cross class abilities. Thoughts?
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    Yes use thunder, also use shadowflare.

    Um, theres a buncha threads discussing the rotation already.
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    Use Thunder.

    Use Search.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Summoner-tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    DoTs first then shadow flare for AoE.

    Here is a general starting rotation:
    Bio II+Obey(so the pet starts attacking while you're casting) -> Miasma -> Bio -> Fester during GCD(make sure to delay it a little more until the Bio debuff is present) -> Shadow Flare -> Thunder -> Ruin -> Ruin II -> Raging Strikes+Fester during GCD -> Bio -> Thunder -> Miasma -> Bio II -> Miasma II -> Fester+Rouse During GCD-> Bio -> Contagion+Spur during GCD-> Ruin -> Ruin II -> Enkindle during GCD -> Shadow Flare

    After that you have to let the DoTs wear off completely because you can't overwrite a RS+DoT with a normal DoT, so then just proceed to keep DoTs up(I try my best to clip between 1-0 on timer). Use Ruin II when you want to use Rouse/Spur(should be on CD, but don't use until after that initial rotation. No time.). The way to maximize DPS is to maximize DoT uptime, and Fester usage.


    Always start with Bio II -> Miasma -> Bio.

    Miasma II is ONLY useful for single target when you use Contagion, and it's not always viable due to mana costs. Shadow Flare doesn't get any benefit from RS so there's no reason to refresh the timer during RS.

    This is a general, safe, starting rotation. If you want to push timers, you can use the Ruin/Ruin II at the end of RS after the Bio, but before Thunder -> Miasma. There's ways to min/max it further, but this is the safest way for everything to fall in timers and keep a good rotation going.
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Summoner-tips

    Bio II > Miasma > Thunder > Bio > Fester > filler (usually Ruin except for the occasional Ruin II for blind) > refresh DoTs as needed, repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kismet View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Summoner-tips

    Bio II > Miasma > Thunder > Bio > Fester > filler (usually Ruin except for the occasional Ruin II for blind) > refresh DoTs as needed, repeat.
    I like how you link Summoner tips like Kevee did, but not even include the optimal rotation she said
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoTheCat View Post
    I like how you link Summoner tips like Kevee did, but not even include the optimal rotation she said
    I copied and pasted a simple rotation from that thread. Originally I was just going to post the link but thought I would add a little more. In addition, Kevee beat me to the punch by a matter of seconds and I had flagged my post for deletion due to redundancy. Feel free to keep your sarcastic, condescending comments to yourself.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    By bio ii+ obey, what exactly do you mean? For the life of me I couldn't find a macro for obey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnage720 View Post
    By bio ii+ obey, what exactly do you mean? For the life of me I couldn't find a macro for obey
    Have a Keybind for Bio II, have a keybind for Obey.

    Press Obey just slightly before Bio II so it's attacking while you're casting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Have a Keybind for Bio II, have a keybind for Obey.

    Press Obey just slightly before Bio II so it's attacking while you're casting.
    Ohhhhh, so just set it to hotbar then. That's what I've been doing. I just thought you had some way to macro it.
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    Kevee, I've been meaning to ask you.

    So, I go through the full opener rotation and am keeping all my dots up.

    Do you change anything during fester down time? (stuck waiting on aether flow to come back up). Or just keep runing the rotation like you would if fester was up?

    Also, thanks for sharing this rotation, I've had great fun toping charts with this. And kiting the occasional CM boss <.<
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