Stats, Caps and Gear optimization for WAR.

[EnGetsu]

I like this, I was having the same idea as this the other day, but was discouraged at the "materia caps" or w/e you want to call them.. but the way you have your gear laid out seems to be right in my eyes. Good work brosiah! and FK off ninjustu or whatever the fk your name is.. chill out, we're not meant to go out of our way to get dex after the soft cap/"wall" he explained is reached.. course this is all imo so come bring some of your rage my way.. i love it.. mmmm

[Ninjiitstu]

we're not meant to go out of our way to get dex after the soft cap/"wall" he explained is reached.. course this is all imo so come bring some of your rage my way.. i love it.. mmmm

The current, known walls of dex, are 196, 211, 226. Do you see a pattern here? That is 15 Dexterity between each wall, that we know of. It isn't a absurd assumption to think that there is one at, or near, 241 Dex as well.

If you were wearing 2 more Gryphonskin accessories instead of the Astral he suggests, for that "useless" 18 Dexterity, pretty safe to say you be at or would be fairly close to that next wall.

Losing 6 total crit, for 18 dex ( which would be roughly 2% increase in mitigation ), and 18 skill speed.

So, EnGetsu, I am sorry you don't approve of my posts. I rather dislike people spreading false information. Especially when that information may lead fellow WAR's to make a bad decision that may cost them upwards of 5M gil.

I mean hell, the guy doesn't even know the cap of stats on items. He keeps referring to DEX as 10, even though it is 9, and thinks you can meld 12 VIT onto Gryphonskin. These are things that you should know before you make a post intended to HELP warriors. I have posted nothing but correct information. If you wanna believe him, be my guest, but you are selling yourself short.

[Vmage]

The 10 vit ring is much more effective HP

it is?

interesting

[Kaalan]

I rather dislike people spreading false information.

I have posted nothing but correct information.

Show me ONE quote from me where I spread false/incorrect information. Search well.
And don't talk to me about the fact that I said "cap". If you read anything, you know just aswell as me that I mean the exact same thing as you do when you say wall. As said, I'm not a native english speaker. Cap in my language is perfectly valide to describ this idea.

I mean hell, the guy doesn't even know the cap of stats on items. He keeps referring to DEX as 10, even though it is 9, and thinks you can meld 12 VIT onto Gryphonskin.

First, I never said you can meld 10 DEX. I said that the difference between tank ring where you meld 8 DEX to reach 226 and full DPS acc is 10 DEX, learn to read before you insult people.
Second, I didn't say "Hey, you can meld 12 VIT, 100% sure of that bro" I said that from what I've seen, most stat are caped at 12 on accessories and that I was looking for more about that. And even then, 10 VIT or 12 VIT changes basically nothing, stop being a freaking douche. If I said like "Yeah, I'm 100% sure you can meld X STR" and it happened to be false and failed to reach 405 STR then yes, it would have been bad, but nothing like that happened.

And are you seriously assuming that each 15 DEX = 2% mitigation ? Seriously ? But, what are we waiting, let's just grab a full crafted gear and meld EVERYTHING into DEX, we will be absolutely unkillable. Yay.

See, we had our share of disagrement with Hiir, but here we are, talking like civilized people and bringing things to the table.
What we have with you, is nothing. You came here, acted like a god, threw a "lol you're wrong kill yourself I invented this" and didn't provide anything to back your claims.

I'm not saying you're wrong or right, I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, what I'm saying is, you're a freaking dick, and I won't tolerate any of this shit on my thread. I really want to have discussions, but that's not what you are doing.

As a final point, the major point of this thread is to explain people how stats works, why they shouldn't go full offense or full defense, why they shouldn't grab those extremely expensive hero acc like some already did and overall, to show that WAR is all about balance in everything and reaching "walls". This is what the WAR community lack the most since I'm going to assume that anyone is smart enough to use their ability. FF XIV require close to 0 mecanic skill.
My point, however, is not to tell someone "Lol u noob, I have 1 STR and -0.03 GCD compared to you at the cost of only 5.78 HP and a point in PAR, you're so full of shit, you shouldn't be allowed to talk"

Now if you really cannot act like a civilized adult, well, this is sadly not the place for you, I suggest you to start your own thread where you will be fully able to insult, trash talk, and explain how a tiny difference in stat will change absolutely everything.

[Kaalan]

I'm sorry I have to retract this. That was actually White Ravens from P3 data. Turns out it was patched at launch.

That's why I couldn't find the site, it had been taken down.

/sad

Guess I'll be spending that gil after all... BOOOOO

Didn't see that with all the shit going on. What the final word on that ring then ? Is it only 1% mitigation on physical damage ?
It's a shame, I liked the idea of having more diversity since we're already in a situation where prefering a tiny amount of X over a tiny amount of Y makes you an horrible person. Guess this is going to be like any other game, do the exact same thing as everyone else or die alone.

[HiirNoivl]

yeah White Ravens is 3% mitigation and ONLY on slashing damage.

So Ring of Lasting Shelter is 1% slashing 1% Blunt and 1% Piercing Resist and is only 1% each of those, not 3% on all sadly. I had epic Sad-face after I saw that. I really did.

But still I would rather buy a big house to raise my racing 'Bos later than to try to patch something now for as much gil, so I traded it for the DL Ring of Fending and my Hero's Bracelet. And then Next week I'll go with the Hero's Fending Belt. It's a slower way to upgrade my Vit, but like I said I don't want to let go of my 24% Parry sooner than I have to. People don't realize how nice that is when you're getting hit between 1200-1500 a pop.

[Kaalan]

But, the thing is, with crafted acc, you would have more parry compared to what you had with your ring of lasting shelter so what's the problem ?

[HiirNoivl]

.... I'm just being cheap.

It's not the parry-rate, it's the percentage. Correct me if I'm wrong but Parry stat is for Parry-Rate not the amount you mitigate right? I'm trying to increase in Vit without losing my 24%. I thought that was effected by STR. that's why I'm skipping Rose Gold Ring melds for now and getting the DL band to replace my RoLS. It's free VIT.

Next week when I get the Hero's Fending Belt, I'll upgrade both my STR and VIT at the same time. And then a couple weeks later I just upgrade my DL band of Fending to Hero's of Fending. It's slower to do it this way yeah, but in the end I think it's the better route since I'll be trading Rose Gold for Hero's anyway, right?

[Kaalan]

Well, I guess you can always go for the gryphonskin rings if that's what bugs you.
I dislike it because, with my serv price anyway, gryphonskin ring costs more gils to be as good as rose gold (talking about melding obviously) but in the end it's really close.

[Dyss]

I got to say I am enjoying reading this thread, I have been mainly stacking Vit atm because I felt I needed to get a high HP for Titan. Then worry about the other stats from there.

But after reading this I feel I need to change my way of thinking. I currently have 600 Tomes of Myth, and no Tomes of Philo. (Bought my Darksteel BP last night) and my points in 30 VIT. I feel like a idiot asking, but with my current gear/stats, what would be a good short time goal for my gear if I change my way of gearing

Dyss Omnia lvl 50 Warrior on Goblin