You need to kill the beastmen and Hydra with the "unfinished" relic weapon equipped which Gerolt gives you, and is item level 50. For everything after that (Ifrit/Garuda/Titan), you have you use a regular weapon.


ok, now take take that DPS and convert it into enmity.This is the damage increase from GC to Ifrit using http://valk.dancing-mad.com/?page_id=260 to calculate.
And yes, putting your 30 points into VIT is best.


Wouldn't that extra 2.23% with halone's moidifer be 2.23%*5?

Good job. Now just move on. You don't need your ifrit wep. My buddy also had horrible luck gettin his ifrit wep for his pally but then he said eff it did garuda and.it dropped first time. As far as progressing end game...u don't need the ifrit blade. Just run ak and cm. Get darklight gear. Throw in garuda nd get gardua wep. Don't get stuck on one thing or you will never progress. Goodluck

Yea all the nonsense about needing full DL and relic to do AK and garbage like that is a joke. Bads relying on gear to carry them is what it is. You don't need ifrit weapon to move on..just like I didn't need anything close to full DL + Relic for the joke of a dungeon AK. Nothing at all hard about it. I could DPS, Tank or heal it in whites. Baddies just use overgearing as a crutch cause they're terrified that something might present a challenge. Skip Ifrit and go do something else. GL.
this person pretty much owned this entire threadYea all the nonsense about needing full DL and relic to do AK and garbage like that is a joke. Bads relying on gear to carry them is what it is. You don't need ifrit weapon to move on..just like I didn't need anything close to full DL + Relic for the joke of a dungeon AK. Nothing at all hard about it. I could DPS, Tank or heal it in whites. Baddies just use overgearing as a crutch cause they're terrified that something might present a challenge. Skip Ifrit and go do something else. GL.

Not really. There are plenty of instances in which you need gear no matter how good are you. Skill does not overcome every formula. Doesn't happen in real life, nor does it happen in games.
Some bad players use gear as a crutch, but for good players it give them an even greater edge/advantage. It's the saying that hard work overcomes talent, except when a talented person works hard. Then the person without any talent but works hard gets surpassed.
In the OP's instance I can only assume that he's trying to supplement his skill with gear not necessarily overcome his flaws with it. But then again I've never seen him play and he could be super scrubby. Or maybe he doesn't wanna be a gimped scrub that gets carried through stuff by other people.
Using shit gear is a reflection upon the player. It means you don't want to reach the pinnacle of your potential by trying to squeeze out every advantage you can for whatever reason (time constraints, laziness, etc). I'm sure there are great olympic sprinters out there that can be very fast barefoot, but why do they wear cleats? To get a competitive edge to be the very best, that no one ever was...(gotta catch em all).
That being said, some content can be cleared without certain things, like AK. But from what's been said you can't really clear titan hm if everyone just sported AF.
Last edited by Stryker; 10-03-2013 at 07:01 AM.


What you said. But having people demand over gearing content to do said content is ridiculous. And you can't pretend that you haven't seen demands or comments regarding this. Obviously you can't challenge Titan HM in AF, but it's obvious you do not need DL and relic to do AK either.Not really. There are plenty of instances in which you need gear no matter how good are you. Skill does not overcome every formula. Doesn't happen in real life, nor does it happen in games.
Some bad players use gear as a crutch, but for good players it give them an even greater edge/advantage. It's the saying that hard work overcomes talent, except when a talented person works hard. Then the person without any talent but works hard gets surpassed.
In the OP's instance I can only assume that he's trying to supplement his skill with gear not necessarily overcome his flaws with it. But then again I've never seen him play and he could be super scrubby. Or maybe he doesn't wanna be a gimped scrub that gets carried through stuff by other people.
Using shit gear is a reflection upon the player. It means you don't want to reach the pinnacle of your potential by trying to squeeze out every advantage you can for whatever reason (time constraints, laziness, etc). I'm sure there are great olympic sprinters out there that can be very fast barefoot, but why do they wear cleats? To get a competitive edge to be the very best, that no one ever was...(gotta catch em all).
That being said, some content can be cleared without certain things, like AK. But from what's been said you can't really clear titan hm if everyone just sported AF.
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