"Vote Kick" is coming!

[Brises]

They could make it so a player meets certain requirements before a vote is possible, such as inactive for 10 minutes or so. Other criteria such as bad behavior would be hard for the system to measure - or impossible even. Also players shouldn't be kicked for being inexperienced or playing poorly as long as they are trying. I have a feeling this is going to be limited to afk-ers. And equipment requirements are going to be implemented, so that's a non-issue.

[Vladislav]

They could make it so a player meets certain requirements before a vote is possible, such as inactive for 10 minutes or so. Other criteria such as bad behavior would be hard for the system to measure - or impossible even. Also players shouldn't be kicked for being inexperienced or playing poorly as long as they are trying. I have a feeling this is going to be limited to afk-ers. And equipment requirements are going to be implemented, so that's a non-issue.

That's what i thinking also , kick to inactive player after 5 min afk or something like that . Because if there will be no criteria , this will be really "fun" - u runned thru Ak to last boss and bah u kicked because ppl's just want to fun or something else lol . And if it goes 3 times in a row ? what to do then , call GM ?

[MorbidAngel]

I can see that there probably will be some form of abuse from certain groups. especially when they make a premade and use DF to fill spots maybe. But will see how that turns out.

This is the biggest potential (more than likely) issue I see with vote kick. The only way I see around it is to make you solo queue if you want to use the DF.

[Delorean]

People don't just kick out of spite

For the next 10 dungeons you queue, I want you to criticize any player who has done anything wrong or perform incorrectly twice every time you have had something explained to you, come back, and then tell me if you feel the same.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, VK is primarily used by people who receive criticism in a way that they do not appreciate.

It certainly is not an option that should be available to every player. With as long as the dungeons in this game are, this game will start bleeding subs like a stuck pig if stuck up try hard but still so bad players get access to it.

VK should only be placed in the hands of responsible players and made available to others only when a player has been inactive in a Full Party for more than 5 minutes.

I believe that it should tie in with the MVP program.

[MXMoondoggie]

Lol "People don't kick out of spite" of course they do. Either on the side of "Skip cutscenes or leave" types or the "I can't take it that this person is getting mad at the party for getting things wrong" care bear types. Do you really think people always get kicked for good reasons? I'd say in MMO's like 60% of kicks are for something dumb.

[Evilized6666]

For the next 10 dungeons you queue, I want you to criticize any player who has done anything wrong or perform incorrectly twice every time you have had something explained to you, come back, and then tell me if you feel the same.

Sure I will do this. Since I'm geared appropriately for what ever content I'm running, know what I'm doing, and doing my job good, just because I criticize someone the rest of the group will not agree to kick me.

People who have problems with vtk, normally are "bads" looking to just be carried by forcing themselves on groups.

[BlossomRose]

Lol "People don't kick out of spite" of course they do. Either on the side of "Skip cutscenes or leave" types or the "I can't take it that this person is getting mad at the party for getting things wrong" care bear types. Do you really think people always get kicked for good reasons? I'd say in MMO's like 60% of kicks are for something dumb.

I'm sorry, what?

If the party wipes on a boss, it is NOBODY'S PLACE to start screaming insults and being "mad". Explain why they wiped, gently, nicely, and professionally, then try again. If someone devolves into insults or "being mad" such that it becomes toxic, then it is not "care bear" behavior to say that they should be kicked out so that a new, non-toxic individual can be drafted in as a replacement.

I'm sorry, but I have no interest in grouping with people who take their anger out on others for failing.

Teach, do not condemn.
Understand, do not judge.

[Brises]

The way it works now, when a df group has a mix of players with different experience levels (like it always does), usually when things don't go perfect, the impatient ones will simply leave. With a vote to kick system that allows players to initiate a vote for any reason, that will change. If it's a simple majority, any 5 members can vote someone out for something as simple as dying on the first boss. People are entitled to play the game they paid for regardless of how good they are. And the df exists for them. The ability of other players to prevent someone from participating in a dungeon should be extremely limited.

[Marionette]

ZOMG THIS PERSON IS RUNNING IFRIT WITHOUT A RELIC WEAPON! *vote to kick*

You know some people would do this.

[kazaran]

On the Dev tech (jap coverage) they already specified that it can not be used to simply kick players because you do not like them. The vote is intiated, has to be agreed on by all players, for afk players, which then have to respond and their character has to be within such a distance of other players.

Keep in mind they can submit a abuse report so abusing it can result in ban or penalties as well.