Solution to WAR problem is to nerf PLD

[Xenobius]

Right now it seems bringing a WAR instead of a PLD is like willingly choosing a handicap, and no one in their right mind does that.

I mean, sure, you can find other ways to shoot yourself in the leg (stop using summoned pets as SMN/SCH, wear swimsuits for armor - take your pick) and claim that killing stuff this way requires "moar skillz", but let's face it, there's a helluva gap between "can do it" and "can do it without causing trouble to others".

[Arkine]

The only content I haven't done with WAR are coils and titan, for everything else I didn't seem to really have any major issues.

[Kenji1134]

Frankly I dont see why they have not done this beforehand. Its simple math...
Paladin takes 0.8x Damage, = 1.25x EHP and 1.25x Healing Received.
Therefore, Warrior takes 1.0x Damage, and has a stance that gives them 25% more HP AND 25% more Healing Received.

Once that it done, get rid of the healing mod on Wrath stacks, and make Wrath just give a little extra dps if you choose to keep the stacks, or enable you to use "useful" abilities if you spend the stacks.

As PiedPiper said, Paladins reduce damage before it happens, while Warriors recover from damage faster after its been dealt. In the end, the amount of healing for each should be identical.
The difference... yes, there will be a difference... is that War can parry, Pally can block and parry. War has higher aoe dps and stronger aoe aggro, Pally has almost no aoe dps, weaker aoe aggro, but slightly stronger ST aggro. War's defensive mechanics center around self healing and smaller defensive cooldowns. Pally's defensive mechanics center around larger defensive cooldowns, and pretty much no self healing... lol 200 point Cure.

[Fuuljo]

Frankly I dont see why they have not done this beforehand. Its simple math...
Paladin takes 0.8x Damage, = 1.25x EHP and 1.25x Healing Received.
Therefore, Warrior takes 1.0x Damage, and has a stance that gives them 25% more HP AND 25% more Healing Received.

I think what would a better idea would be to give a WAR conditional healing bonuses based on health percentages. For example;
# >75% = no bonus
# <75% = 15% bonus
# <50% = 35% bonus
# <25% = 50% bonus

So effectively a WAR would receive more healing the less health they had making recovering from burst damage easier, more efficient and rewarding for intelligent healing.

[Citizen_Thom]

I think what would a better idea would be to give a WAR conditional healing bonuses based on health percentages. For example;
# >75% = no bonus
# <75% = 15% bonus
# <50% = 35% bonus
# <25% = 50% bonus

So effectively a WAR would receive more healing the less health they had making recovering from burst damage easier, more efficient and rewarding for intelligent healing.

That would fit the idea of MRD as a class it would seem... obviously they might tamper with the numbers, but I think the concept is something that should've been there as a passive trait for MRD/WAR.

[Ehayte]

I think what would a better idea would be to give a WAR conditional healing bonuses based on health percentages.

A while back I proposed something like: WAR Healing Bonus = (1-Current Hit Point %). So if the WAR was at 90% hit points, heals were 10% more effective, at 10% hit points, heals were 90% more effective. But I do really like the idea of a scaling healing bonus, however the numbers work out.

[Citizen_Thom]

Increase PLD dmg, give PLD more combos, let PLD use Overwhelm first... or else we aren't talking about (emote:airquotes) 'balancing' the classes.

[Rios-Drakoon]

LAdies Ladies...

WAR Selfheal is a joke.

Titan HM; hit me with 1000-4500 hits, do you really think, my Healer feels any diffrence when i turn on Bloodbath oder StormsPath?
Bloodbath heals me 20-90 per hit/dot
Stormspath heals me 100-150 (all 7,5sec, but that a DMG Rotation and no Tank Enmity Rotation)

dont give me that shit, Warrior are not balanced. and theres a big gap between PLD and WAR.

[SpookyGhost]

LAdies Ladies...

WAR Selfheal is a joke.

Titan HM; hit me with 1000-4500 hits, do you really think, my Healer feels any diffrence when i turn on Bloodbath oder StormsPath?
Bloodbath heals me 20-90 per hit/dot
Stormspath heals me 100-150 (all 7,5sec, but that a DMG Rotation and no Tank Enmity Rotation)

dont give me that shit, Warrior are not balanced. and theres a big gap between PLD and WAR.

You should probably be popping 2 IBs for that, or Thrill + Conv. I don't know why you'd use Bloodbath or Storm's Path to try and mitigate Table Flip... Vengeance + Bloodbath could be of some use before Table Flip, though. But very little.

[Taruranto]

Pretty much. The fact that PLD can tank level 90 content without any problem, it's quite indicative of their skill. Not to mention the number of useful abilities like stun and silence, why do even have the last one?