I love the insane requirements from parties to do end game content..

[anov50]

what about the ppl shouting for full DL and relic +1 for CM runs.... yeah

[WintersMoondancer]

what about the ppl shouting for full DL and relic +1 for CM runs.... yeah

This ^

These morons just irritate me to no end. CM can be done easily with AF or less. Sick of people like this.

[LunarEmerald]

This ^

These morons just irritate me to no end. CM can be done easily with AF or less. Sick of people like this.

You're missing the point. It's not that it can't be done with less, it's that darklight and +1 lets them speed through it very quickly. They want to do it as fast as possible to minimize time grinding.

[Dijana]

You're missing the point. It's not that it can't be done with less, it's that darklight and +1 lets them speed through it very quickly. They want to do it as fast as possible to minimize time grinding.

The irony is that in the time they spend looking for people who fill their criteria they probably could've got through 1-2 runs already if they just took anyone.

[LunarEmerald]

The irony is that in the time they spend looking for people who fill their criteria they probably could've got through 1-2 runs already if they just took anyone.

You do have a point there.

[vRoad]

I see this topic pop up a lot and don't really see the issue.

Must be a NA/EU server thing because I have never seen such on my JP realm. BUT, you really can't complain. If the group wants their group members to meet a certain criteria, then that's up to them.

You have 4 choices:
1 - Form your own group
2 - Buy it
3 - Join a similarly progressed guild who are working on Titan
4 - Bash your head against the DF wall (ill-advised)

The fight is simple and mechanics are methodical enough that it should all become muscle memory to your group within a couple hours. This is coming from someone who has done their fair share of Titan kills (relics for subclasses/selling/helping guildees) over the past 4 weeks.

[Amyas]

I see this topic pop up a lot and don't really see the issue.

Must be a NA/EU server thing because I have never seen such on my JP realm. BUT, you really can't complain. If the group wants their group members to meet a certain criteria, then that's up to them.
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I just wish they'd use the player search instead of spamming the shout channel for hours on end for a 'quick run'. Its just ugh. Spammy and it intimidates people into thinking they have to be #1 all day everyday to even get a glance at the 'endgame'.

[Sajomir]

This ^

These morons just irritate me to no end. CM can be done easily with AF or less. Sick of people like this.

I was in a group today of all Relic bards and black mages, with one healer and myself as a relic tank. We were making 23 minute clears of Praetorium, which is darn good time. That means 4 runs in an hour and a half, 8 runs in 3 hours, which is great if you're trying to buy up darklight quickly.

Simply put, you need the gear to put out that kind of raw damage. You also need the knowledge to run the instance "correctly" if you want that kind of time, but the extra damage from 7 relic wielding people shaves off way more time than you might think.

Is it the only way to play? No. Is it time efficient and therefore desirable to some people? Yes. We are not doing it to exclude YOU, we just have specific goals in mind. Get off your high horse

[Orophin]

i been saying this since beta once they add gear score its gonna be just like WoW with the crazy as hell requirements to do anything.

I'm just glad it's going to be system imposed and not by the players.

[whycantiusebetaforumname]

what about the ppl shouting for full DL and relic +1 for CM runs.... yeah

need to be able to burn them cutscenes down