Please allow non-legacy characters transfer off legacy worlds

[sushicide]

Same sob story as you heard before - only two of us ended up on the server while the majority of our friends were unable to create a character or secure a copy of the game.

Q: Well, maybe you shouldn't have gone to a legacy server in the first place, what did you expect?

Yes you are absolutely right, but that boat had already sailed long ago and besides, we would've never picked a legacy server had this policy was clarified in the beginning, in fact if it was included along with the first server transfer announcement in early September I'd have no problem rerolling elsewhere. Except now that everything's been pushed back for so long our friends had already founded a well established FC, there is no reason why they should break up and join us (especially with the current population cap).

Like the average non-legacy characters on new servers, we do not have multiple lvl50 professions or a substantial amount of gil, I honestly don't see a reason we would have a major impact on server economy compared to an actual legacy player. It's just not the same playing by ourselves.

[Austin]

Not going to happen... Then legacy players would be allowed off

[FutanXIV]

I see no reason why they shouldn't. They seem to be worrying more about theoretical economic issues that may occur but then ignore current real issues like the teleport bots and RMT controlling the crystal market. Basically, on both fronts it seems like they're trying to piss off players. Arbitrary restrictions and ignoring bots that are impeding players. Priorities~

Not going to happen... Then legacy players would be allowed off

And what actual harm would that do? About everyone's 50 already. They're handing out the best gear from 1.x like candy(Darklight). They're restricting gil you can take w/ you during server transfers. For all intents and purposes, the new players have 'caught up'.

[FutanXIV]

They're restricting gil you can take w/ you during server transfers.

Again, they're focusing on theoretical issues that may occur(but given the quoted section, won't) while ignoring current real ones.

[Malila]

And what actual harm would that do? About everyone's 50 already.

That's news to me, being on a non-legacy server with lots of non-50 people who are taking it slow.
Same with gil, yes there are some rich people on the non-legacy servers, who know how to play the market AND have lots of time to gather/craft on their hands, but I imagine that the majority of players is not sitting on millions of gil on these servers.
(No, I do not state that as a fact, it is just a conclusion based on observations I have made).

Also, you need to understand that there isn't only one single economy person at SE working, but several groups addressing different topics. The server transfer has nothing to do with RMT and botting. Allowing one potentially bad thing just because there exist other things that are (obviously) worse for the economy, doesn't make any sense.

[Alhanelem]

I see no reason why they shouldn't.

The same reason any legacy player cant. By being on a legacy server, your character is effected by the different economic conditions on the legacy servers, which are the whole reason they're restricted from transfering off. It has nothing to do with RMT and everything to do with preventing the economies on fresh start servers from being corrupted.

Transfers off legacy worlds will eventually be allowed after enough time has passed to where the disparity in economic conditions between the server types has shrunk (which it will gradually happen over time).

Also, if your reasons for wanting a transfer are that your friends can't create characters on your world, that should no longer be an issue. Most of the legacy worlds have character creation open most of the time. If it's too late for them to want to create a new character there, then they should be able to transfer to yours when the transfer service opens.

[Sylvari]

I'm in favor for allowing Legacy to transfer off. At this point in time i would be surprised if others were not caught up. They already said they will put a Gil limit when you transfer so i don't see why they shouldn't allow a Legacy player to transfer off.

[Alhanelem]

It will be available eventually, just not at the start of the transfer service.

while they can limit the gil you can take with you, that doesn't really solve any problem because you can just buy up goods with the gil over the limit then sell them on your new world (though you're not likely to get as much gil back for them as you would have on the legacy servers). Thus, there are still economic effects.

Again, they're focusing on theoretical issues that may occur(but given the quoted section, won't) while ignoring current real ones.

It's not really theoretical. The impact is pretty obvious, which is why they're taking their time with it. People knew going in that they would not be able to transfer off legacy worlds for some time. it's nobody's fault but yours if you can't wait for that to be possible, because it was made clear well beforehand.

The 'real" isuses people are speaking of can be solved by having your friends transfer to your world instead of the other way around. Character creation has been possible on every legacy world on at leas some times of the day (most of the day or all day for most of them). Your friends can create a new character now that it's possible, or they can transfer over.

[FutanXIV]

The real economic issues, as I mentioned before, were the bots teleporting around gathering items faster than should be possible, RMT controlling the crystal market, and to add one, gil essentially having little to no use. Again these are real and current economic issues and they're doing nothing to fix them. Where as this theoretical threat of more worthless currency being entered into a server is a grave concern.

Okay, you said the impact is obvious. Tell me. What permanent impact will come to the server's economy if say 100 people from a legacy server go to a specific new server? Honestly even a temporary impact will suffice. What are they going to do? Use their 'vast wealth' which others already have on the server to buy all the overpriced things willy nilly? lol. Oh noes! Gil exchanging hands! That's the worst possible thing for an economy. Owait...

[FutanXIV]

Please someone name a specific way that this could actually permanently or even temporarily harm the economy. I literally cannot think of one. It's 'obvious', so tell me.