Castrum grind might stop me from subbing

[EdwinLi]

You don't need to focus only on grinding castrum.

There is still the matter of your Cross-skills that needs to be unlocked.

crafting for gears and profit.

collecting mini-pets.

and if you love unlocking more things then play each class/job to unlock each class/job storyline cutscenes for your cutscene book.

If you want a real challenge then try collecting all relic weapons.

[Xatsh]

If you want a real challenge then try collecting all relic weapons.

If you really went at this... it would take 1 week to get all of them. Only takes 3hrs per weapon if you have an endgame guild.... That is the problem with the game, it is a gear handout combined with a major lack of content.

[Jeronlmo]

If you want a real challenge then try collecting all relic weapons.

My ls is doing full relic runs, start to finish, in about 2hrs 30min's. You can easily get every one of them in a day. The only thing that makes this game hard is running with pugs.

Doing things to gain money is ok to a point, in a game like this one that has no real money sink, where there is no reason to spend money other than teleports and repairs, the point comes up fairly quickly and its no longer content.

Collecting/achievements are not content and are and always will be worthless, its like collecting every sword in the game just because, SE could make having every primal weapon an achievement but that does not make it worth doing in any way. Achievements even existing in any game is just sad and the fad needs to die.

Leveling jobs and unlocking all abilities on the other hand is valid, if you do not have every job capped, and know how to play it, you have not yet won. Every single person in any LS should be versatile and be playing w/e job is needed, not just your favorite job (not a fan of 1 trick ponies), just remember LS's/guilds should not be about you, its about the group. Somewhat tired of the threads full of people today saying they shouldn't have to level other jobs than their mains, they are selfish, which is fine if you play solo.

[Astralis]

What a dumbass reason to stop subbing. You do know o
You can still progress without farming cm right? You do know that no one is forcing you to run cm right?

So stop blaming cm farms. You are not being tied to do cm runs silly kid. You have a lot of options like crafting make money then buy the crafted i70s.

[Hed]

I really don't think it's all that bad. At least it isn't like most games where it takes you two hours to run the damn thing in regards to preparing and waiting for team members to show up. I can farm this till I'm content for the day and get my gear without hoping for a drop.

I just hit 50 and finished the story early sunday morning. Already have my darklight belt and chest. Pretty amped to get the rest and start downing some HM primals and work on my relic stuff.

[Shuon]

just curious, what would make you sub?

more variety of dungeons? because even with that, therr will still be thr most efficient one around, and that's what everyone will do.

more items? thatzs more grind.

more story contents? even harry potter took a few years per book.

i'm not tryibg to discredit you, but it is not true that everyone everyone is entitled to his/her opinion; you are only entitled to opinions you could defend. is there anything you could suggest in lieu of the current 'problem'?

[Rushx]

just curious, what would make you sub?

more variety of dungeons? because even with that, therr will still be thr most efficient one around, and that's what everyone will do.

more items? thatzs more grind.



more story contents? even harry potter took a few years per book.

i'm not tryibg to discredit you, but it is not true that everyone everyone is entitled to his/her opinion; you are only entitled to opinions you could defend. is there anything you could suggest in lieu of the current 'problem'?

i think just more dungeons and ways to obtain loot, nit askign foir hand out either they could be super hard but i just need more fun ways to gear up, doign a story mode dungeon with no loot is just not fun after 30th time

[Shuon]

i think just more dungeons and ways to obtain loot, nit askign foir hand out either they could be super hard but i just need more fun ways to gear up, doign a story mode dungeon with no loot is just not fun after 30th time

it is almost certain that they will add more items/dungeons etc but they will still be grindy :/ the philosophy doesn't change - do X to get loot, where x is repeatable dungeons/fights with either a token or drop rate.

it's pretty much why i was never into endgame stuff, because the race is not designed to end. just as you think you have finally decked out, new content is introduced and your ilvl80 gear is suddenly available via quests - upon which i could just clear the difficult content without al that effort although i probably need ilvl120 to clear the new ones. the cycle goes on.

lvl another class, gather, craft, and help people i guess. that's why we play an mmo right - for the community, not just bragging rights.

[slipmac]

just curious, what would make you sub?

1.0 controller style

[Vyserion]

It's not like you can get tomes from dungeons as early as Dzemael Darkhold, up through Aurum Vale, Wanderer's Palace, Castrum Meridianum, Amdapor Keep and Praetorium or anything.