The definitive WAR answer STR vs VIT... and stat caps

[Ysarel]

I've said it many times: STR will make you a better tank than VIT for all pre-endgame content. However, once you reach a certain damage threshold, all the STR in the world won't prevent the inevitable and unavoidable wipes. That threshold is reached in BC, and adding VIT is mandatory until gear is sufficient to reduce damage threshold such that your tank can withstand the big hits without keeling over.

Well said.

He has a level 2 Marauder

Ha, I didn't even catch that. Shield vs Sword Oath is a reasonably similar question then since PLD is his only 50.

It's not a hard concept to grasp, but I see tanks fulltiming their defensive stances in some fairly ridiculous situations and slowing the group down for nothing. Substantially higher cost of switching stat allocations aside, it's not all that different from allocating STR vs VIT.

[HiirNoivl]

I converted to Flash myself.

Mostly because Overpower sucked TP and gives you no Wrath.

[BattleShipSkyLobster]

Anyone looking for actual information about this game should never try to learn from these forums. They are full of bad information and an obnoxious amount of complaint and QQ posts.

1. Put all your points into vitality, WAR or PLD.
2. Anyone who disagrees with that, is bad, and wrong.
3. Warriors are fine and completely balanced, and if you disagree you are a bad who needs to l2p.
4. Yes i'm serious.
5. We have cleared turn 4 with a warrior tank, and it is substantially easier than with 2 PLD due to WAR snap aggro on adds.
6. People should stop saying PLD can dps the same as a warrior. There is no tanking situation in the entire end game where
sword oath is viable whatsoever while tanking. And obviously AoE damage the WAR brings significantly more to the table.

That's all.

[Derza]

Anyone looking for actual information about this game should never try to learn from these forums. They are full of bad information and an obnoxious amount of complaint and QQ posts.

1. Put all your points into vitality, WAR or PLD.
2. Anyone who disagrees with that, is bad, and wrong.
3. Warriors are fine and completely balanced, and if you disagree you are a bad who needs to l2p.
4. Yes i'm serious.
5. We have cleared turn 4 with a warrior tank, and it is substantially easier than with 2 PLD due to WAR snap aggro on adds.
6. People should stop saying PLD can dps the same as a warrior. There is no tanking situation in the entire end game where
sword oath is viable whatsoever while tanking. And obviously AoE damage the WAR brings significantly more to the table.

That's all.

I'm going to take your suggestion in your first line... and ignore all the "bad information" you provided after. I mean you say they all(all would include yours) have bad information then expect people to go with your "bad information"? Really?

Edit: I'm not saying your info is bad... just pointing out that you are calling your own information bad.

[HiirNoivl]

I'm going to take your suggestion in your first line... and ignore all the "bad information" you provided after. I mean you say they all(all would include yours) have bad information then expect people to go with your "bad information"? Really?

Sez the guy in the moogle cap. EDIT: Awww it went away... durn it. I just find it sometimes funny what people wear on the forums when it disconnects from the serious-business tone of their posts.

Even though we disagree that Vit has no cap on its usefulness, I pretty much agree with the rest of it.

I think the post several pages back explains it better than I ever could, but basically I feel that once you reach a certain "tier" of Vitality you stand to benefit more from Strength than adding more Vit. That said, once you get into Turn 4 of Coil I can imagine that Vit suddenly will be something you want to stack again.

Congrats on your FCs success Julius. I hope to get as far as you soon. ^_^

[Derza]

Sez the guy in the moogle cap.

Even though we disagree that Vit has no cap on its usefulness, I pretty much agree with the rest of it.

Lol what does having a moogle cap on have to do with anything? Oh and read my edited post... ( i edited it like 10 secs after i posted guess you refreshed really fast!)

[Ysarel]

Anyone looking for actual information about this game should never try to learn from these forums. They are full of bad information and an obnoxious amount of complaint and QQ posts.

1. Put all your points into vitality, WAR or PLD.
2. Anyone who disagrees with that, is bad, and wrong.
3. Warriors are fine and completely balanced, and if you disagree you are a bad who needs to l2p.
4. Yes i'm serious.
5. We have cleared turn 4 with a warrior tank, and it is substantially easier than with 2 PLD due to WAR snap aggro on adds.
6. People should stop saying PLD can dps the same as a warrior. There is no tanking situation in the entire end game where
sword oath is viable whatsoever while tanking. And obviously AoE damage the WAR brings significantly more to the table.

That's all.

You strike me as the kind of guy who fulltimes Defiance. Am I correct?

I have a WAR and PLD, my highest crit on war is 992, the pld gets 315. You guys really think pld has higher single target dps? Play both classes before you compare them.

Spike damage is rarely a good measure of DPS, even assuming those numbers are accurate and gathered under identical conditions.

[poh]

I have a WAR and PLD, my highest crit on war is 992, the pld gets 315. You guys really think pld has higher single target dps? Play both classes before you compare them.

[Leiron]

I have a WAR and PLD, my highest crit on war is 992, the pld gets 315. You guys really think pld has higher single target dps? Play both classes before you compare them.

Are you...honestly trying to state that...the DPS a warrior does is entirely better based upon the damage of a single ability?
Damage per second = damage over time

Warrior does have greater burst, but it means nothing given that its overall damage is just the same as a Paladin's.

[Derza]

Edit: misread post