The current battle system mainly calculate everything from Your Rank vs Mob Rank

[Elexia]

You don't even know there are already multiple tiers of the spell available (ex. Shell I/II and Protect I/II) So please, you can remove yourself from this argument whenever you think possible.

Everyone knows there's multiple tiers and everyone knows their effectiveness overall was reduced, not broken, in November.

You just make it abundantly clear you have something against her.

[ApplePie]

Everyone knows there's multiple tiers and everyone knows their effectiveness overall was reduced, not broken, in November.

You just make it abundantly clear you have something against her.

I have something against people who argue "show me proof". But the burden of proof is wholly on everyone's part. Can't claim it works and demand proof when you cannot yourself show proof.

Uhhh i havent done side by side comparisons, but i know for a fact that shell is very effective at reducing the magic damage i take.

Where is your proof? Am I supposed to assume you are correct? Excuse me while I leave this topic now. It is people who have rank 50s and have done content and people who are less than rank 50 and assume they know how content works.

Edit: Nope, but I like your thinking nonetheless!

[Elexia]

I have something against people who argue "show me proof". But the burden of proof is wholly on everyone's part. Can't claim it works and demand proof when you cannot yourself show proof.

It's on everyone's part, but when someone slams a document down on your desk and says "THIS DOESN'T WORK!" don't you think normally, to support their assessment, you're given proof as to why it doesn't? And what's wrong with it? Then told to correct it? Even yoshida says the complex calculations for these spells need adjusting, but it wasn't broken or a bug, which was in one of the few premiere site Q&As sometime in feb or march.

You can eyeball that there's a small benefit to using protect and shell vs not using them (theres no way you can take more damage using -dt than not, I know I don't and I'm currently leveling conjurer on a new character), whereas you need parse data (more accurate assessment) to really see if it does what it should. It was overpowered prior to the novemeber adjustment, now it's just not as effective as it should be.

[ApplePie]

It's on everyone's part, but when someone slams a document down on your desk and says "THIS DOESN'T WORK!" don't you think normally, to support their assessment, you're given proof as to why it doesn't? And what's wrong with it? Then told to correct it? Even yoshida says the complex calculations for these spells need adjusting, but it wasn't broken or a bug, which was in one of the few premiere site Q&As sometime in feb or march.

You can eyeball that there's a small benefit to using protect and shell vs not using them (theres no way you can take more damage using -dt than not, I know I don't and I'm currently leveling conjurer on a new character), whereas you need parse data (more accurate assessment) to really see if it does what it should. It was overpowered prior to the novemeber adjustment, now it's just not as effective as it should be.

In an argument, both sides have to prove their point. Neither side can say "I know it is true because I say so." So until you give me a burden of proof that there is a small benefit from shell, I shan't believe it works.

BAM. Tested and proven. Good game bro.

You see a lot of that on the forums. People cast shell, take 50 less damage on ONE attack and go "it works" instead of figuring that it is just coincidence. It is "luck" when you take 50 less damage without shell. I'm tired of rank 20-40s telling me it reduces 2938093820938023 damage; when in fact, it doesn't reduce damage.

Someone even told me it reduces 10% of damage... I'll bring that quote if someone
doesn't believe people think this about shell/protect. Only thing that works to reduce magical damage is Emulate :/ It reduced damage from a goblin bomb (rank 79) from 2.5k to 1.4k on me. Cast shell... nothing reduced... Cast shell several times on several different rank 70+ monsters, nothing happens.

I don't know if you believe shell/protect works/doesn't work, but I'm tired of people saying "I have proof because I can type a wall of text on how I feel it works."

And before you say, "Where is your parse!?": I'll show you parse when I am allowed to use third-party tools in FFXIV. Otherwise, I'm not risking my account to show you something I already know to be true. Hit rank 50, use shell/protect and then tell me it works to reduce more than your mystical "10%".