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    Client unable to detect cheating/not supported addons

    I can confirm the client is absolutely not able to detect any additional cheating program. I was the observer, to be able to report this issue, with help of friends, innocent not aware testers:
    the client doesn't detect teleport hack programs, external parsers, multiple Tell spammers (used to spam gil RMT websites). (i will not link websites providing this software) as reported thousand times from everyone (expecially teleport hack)

    Also new external parses (claimed as local parsers like FFXIV-APP) distrupt the gameplay of other players, creating heavy unplayable lag to others except the parser user.
    This new software not detected confirms it.

    Every single mmo out in the market is perfectly able to detect external programs, banning the abusers. This is by far the only mmo where everyone do any kind of crime.

    Put an end on this junk. Thanks.

    EDIT (considering western community seems more oriented to +1 and waste time then leave a security thread on bug section clean for staff's investigations, any additional post i wrote will be deleted so the thread can be cleaned)

    The software was claimed to be a local parser. I personally didn't use it, i have no reason to use it , being a healer.
    The software wasn't a cheating software at all, it was claimed as new and safe, local logs.

    The side effect of this software (intended or not) disrupt the gameplay of the team, slowering the dungeon's istanced queue.

    The lag experienced may be random, and related to game's issues external to this software, may require additional investigation and tests by the security team.

    The client need to be able to check any use of software not approved by SE, it may ease the security team to waste time testing if lag increase or not with this particular parser (or any cheating software like teleporters) , just adding a security check on our client
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    Last edited by Teon; 10-01-2013 at 10:29 PM.

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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Also external parses (like FFXIV-APP) distrupt the gameplay of other players, creating heavy unplayable lag to others except the parser user.
    ......

    I re-read this so many times and tried to make sense of this.... and it failed. Really. Please explain how that was even possible?

    It doesn't even send a packet to the game. Parsers work by analyzing the game memory through the log data which are handled locally. No connections are made, whatsoever, to FFXIV, let alone to other players, that.. somehow lags them.

    also...

    Every single mmo out in the market is perfectly able to detect external programs, banning the abusers. This is by far the only mmo where everyone do any kind of crime.
    I've yet to ran into an MMORPG that could do this.
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi of Excalibur Lamia


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    Tachi Grace
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    troll for stirring up parser drama, go find somewhere else to whine about your deeps
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    I guess SE will ban a lot of internet security apps users because they interact with internet packets sent by the game
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    HAHAH thats my new excuse for lag !

    "Sry guys, someone is running FFXIVApp and causing me lag"

    LMFAO
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    Besides the TOS, who lags is the player using it if it's delaying packets transfer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
    As explained, this parser disrupt other player's performance, not the software's user. It may be an intented/ badly programmed program injecting data for this optional purpose disrupting other customer's gameplay.
    If able to provide more help on this bug thread, (assuming someone is aware of which software i'm talking about), post more details eventually.

    Refrain from useless posts. This is not a chitchat about lag but a security issue. Thanks for your cooperation
    You stop talking about stuff you don't know. No other player's IP is sent to your client besides the server you are connected to so it cannot inject packets to lag any other player.
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