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  1. #471
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    Cacie's Avatar
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    Cacie Brennan
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Transfers Involving Legacy Worlds
    In order to allow the economy of newly established Worlds to stabilize, the following restrictions have been set in place for Legacy Worlds.

    Transferrable Current World Destination World
    ○ Non-Legacy World -> Legacy World
    ○ Legacy World -> Legacy World
    × Legacy World -> Non-Legacy World
    soo... i've been telling all my friends to go to catuar due to hyperion being full at launch because i was going to server transfer there.... then had to wait an extra month do you guys to get this working right and now that its about time for it to get into service... your locking me from joining them because your scared other legacy players will mess up the economy... if i recall from an earlier announcement, you guys was going to give us a Gil limit anyway. your reasoning for locking us from joining our friends isn't really a good enough reason. unless your worried my 28k Gil is just going to mess everything up -.-
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  2. #472
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    Lionheart's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Ariel Logos
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    Ragnarok
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    Samurai Lv 70
    At least devs owe us an explanation for the legacy -> non legacy forbidden transfer AND a date about when this will be possible.
    Once again I don't pretend to be the smarter guy who knows it all about server economies and such. But about two things I'm 100% sure:
    - This is not how a costumer should be treated (if there's something messed up and I'm not the culprit I should NOT pay the consequences as costumer) so you should really find another workaround for this problem.
    - As a costumer I have the right to know ALL the details about why my service options are fewer because I play on a Legacy World.

    I'll be waiting for your answer and not for excuses.
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  3. #473
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    Birii's Avatar
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    Kira Yamanaka
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    Aegis
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Hi there,

    Thank you for updating the lodestone information.

    There is one question that I would like to ask, will our current quest(s) progress be carried over as well? For example, if I am on the step to kill Ifrit on Hard mode for my relic quest will that be carried over as well or would I have to start over from scratch?
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  4. #474
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    HustlerBojenkins's Avatar
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    Hustler Bojenkins
    World
    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Hopefully this being "preliminary" means that this part can change before it launches. I don't think it is fair to ask my friends who have likely met new people to transfer to my server. It's also not fair that I should lose the character I've had for this long in order to play with them, especially when there are already economy protecting measures applied to all transfers.
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  5. #475
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    byyako's Avatar
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    Sheepolin Lions
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I would really like to see some updated data on the differences between legacy and non legacy servers is in terms of economy at this point... is that a calculated conclusion or its just something they "guess" will happen if they let ppl out of legacy jails.

    My guess though, is the FFXIV team is still quite small (they just started making profit recently) and they are over loaded with other tasks to tune up such a ambitious, complex game PLUS the up coming new content. They probably do not have an analytical team to monitor and make decisions on game economy yet. Nor would they put the transfer issue into their top priority unless we keep making our voice heard.
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  6. #476
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekotaru View Post
    I am really angry. -snip for space-

    I truly hope they realize how mad this makes a lot of Legacy server people in the same position as me. You can't stereotype us all into gilsellers or thinking we would mess up the economy.

    The point of an MMO is to play with your friends. Now I can't play with any of mine and I am mad. And I will be triple ashamed of my 10+ years of loyalty to the online franchise if/when it becomes available I have to *pay* to transfer. This is ruining my entire game experience.
    i hope you're being dramatic for effect, because your post sounds ridiculous.

    i hope you realize;
    1) transfers will eventually be available off legacy worlds down the road as the economy and status of characters on legacy worlds balances out with those on nonlegacy worlds over time
    2) There's no reason why your friends can't transfer to YOUR world instead. What's the problem here? why does this have to ruin your game experience? transfer to legacy world is possible, so why not do that? Ive yet to see a rational reason for this level of irateness- there are reasonable solutions to your situation.

    You CAN play with your friends, Even if you're on a legacy world.
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  7. #477
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    Wildsprite's Avatar
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    Moonfrost Hailstorm
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    Zalera
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Billzey View Post
    Regardless, clearly legacy > new world transfers would screw up the economy, and clearly people would take advantage of it. End of story. It may suck for you, but it's better for everyone else.
    you must be gullible if you actually believe there are enough 1.0 players on Legacy worlds to justify this decision. there are not, maybe 10% of the entire 1.0 population fall into this and that is pushing it. their decision might have seemed like a good one at the time they made it but the reality of it is that it wasnt. which means that ALL players on ALL Legacy worlds(including new players) are being punished for what the few have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    2) There's no reason why your friends can't transfer to YOUR world instead. What's the problem here? why does this have to ruin your game experience? transfer to legacy world is possible, so why not do that?

    I have yet to see anyone with half a brain suggest this. the Legacy worlds are already mostly overcrowded. this will just make them much more so. stop suggesting nonsense to defend a decision that should never have been made in the first place
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 10-11-2013 at 09:57 PM.

  8. #478
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    Becken's Avatar
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    Nemeera Starnight
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 90
    It would be nice to knew the time frame when a legacy players could transfer to a non-legacy servers
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  9. #479
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    ArkhamNative's Avatar
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    Santori Zhonets
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Becken View Post
    It would be nice to knew the time frame when a legacy players could transfer to a non-legacy servers
    Back in 2011(?), after reading posts by SE reps, we generally assumed it would be 6 months after launch, to let the economy of new worlds establish. We're still 4 months away from that assumption, fyi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosario View Post
    What time PDT (Pacific Daylight Time) on October 15? Anybody? Bueller?
    A JP rep clarification (unofficial translation, last white quote box in that message) seemed to indicate it would be starting after the all or regional worlds maintenance downtime on Oct 15 (JP timezone), but that maintenance has yet to be scheduled.
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    Last edited by ArkhamNative; 10-11-2013 at 10:30 AM.

  10. #480
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    DimiDimi's Avatar
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    Dimi Carbuncle
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    1 suggestion for those of us concerned with Legacy --> Non-Legacy transfers.
    In my experience with FFXI forums, the posts with the most LIKES get more attention from the community reps, and by extension, the devs. I'm seeing lots and lots of people expressing these concerns, but each of these posts have 0-10 likes.
    Please use the LIKE feature and LIKE posts expressing a similar viewpoint to yours. The community reps don't have time to read through every thread and see what the common themes of posts are. However, it's quite easy for them to look for posts with a high number of LIKES to see what a large number of people are interested in / concerned about.
    On the Japanese side, they are really good at this, but we're not so good at it on the NA side.

    TL;DR: Please use the LIKE feature on posts you agree with. This is the most efficient way to get community rep attention.
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