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  1. #211
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    chris_animeguy's Avatar
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    Totally agree
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  2. #212
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griever_Zero View Post
    Sadly me moaning won't change anything :S
    Nay sir, we have to, in fact, keep moaning about it. It's the only way we'll get them to lift this silly stipulation!
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  3. #213
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    Warlyx Arada
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    if u were new in 2.0 u had the OPTION to go LEGACY or NOT , why ppl choosed a legacy if they wanted to start on a new server or move to a new server later on ????

    A 1.0 player with 2.0 friends joining the game why they didnt join your server ? locked? all the servers were locked to be fair , mine (new) opened for some hours late at night , took my gf and friends 2-3 days of trying to get a character on moogle.




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  4. #214
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    Elegance Ebonheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    if u were new in 2.0 u had the OPTION to go LEGACY or NOT , why ppl choosed a legacy if they wanted to start on a new server or move to a new server later on ????

    A 1.0 player with 2.0 friends joining the game why they didnt join your server ? locked? all the servers were locked to be fair , mine (new) opened for some hours late at night , took my gf and friends 2-3 days of trying to get a character on moogle.




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    To be fair, some servers literally never opened the entire early access period, and for a week or more after.
    I was looking for tonberry to open, which it never did until quite awhile after they added servers.
    I started on a legacy and rerolled off because I expected this to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by chris_animeguy View Post
    WalterWhite=Douchebag.

    I came back to the game at launch for early access, and by that point, the damage had already been done. SE had stuck my 1.0 character on a random JAP Aegis server, even though I am clearly an EU player, signing on from an EU region, and there wasn't a damn thing I could do about it.

    That wasn't my stupidity. It's SE's. Plain and simple. I didn't screw myself. I re-installed FFXIV, and FOUND my character on Aegis. Already done.
    Before you say we had the opportunity to World Transfer during the early beta stages', I was neither around nor aware that this was happening at the time.
    You should be able to move to a legacy server of your choice when transfers open, you just can't transfer to a non legacy server.
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  5. #215
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegance View Post

    You should be able to move to a legacy server of your choice when transfers open, you just can't transfer to a non legacy server.
    if you read his first post he makes it pretty clear he wants to be on a non legacy world not transfer to another legacy world. quite frankly I dont want to move to another legacy world either.



    a snippit from his first post so you dont have to search for it
    Quote Originally Posted by chris_animeguy View Post
    I for one am a 1.0 player stuck on a legacy server. My character has much lower job levels than most of my friends who are on a non-legacy server. This decision just boggles my mind.

    Please could someone shed some light for me on why this decision has been made? It is extremely disappointing, because it means I STILL cannot play with my friends. It is unfair to ask a whole LS to world transfer to a legacy server just for me, so I’m left with only one option to go to them. At the moment I’m totally stuck on my own.
    I still believe the whole thing is flawed, not being able to move from legacy worlds to non legacy worlds based on nothing initially but the fact that your char was 1.0 and they feared economy issues. their criterea should be based on how much you had done before 1.0 shut down(i.e. did you have more than one class/job leveled to max? how much gil did you have?) seeing as the majority of 1.0 players didnt even have 1 class even close to max and had very little gil, their whole legacy world segragation is flawed


    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    It's just sad when people lie to pretend they're the victim, rather than accept that their choices or lack of choices put them where they are today. And when they stack outrage on top of it and blame others... *sigh*...
    lets roill with this silly argument, first your claim that we are pretending we are the victim, load of garbage, Legacy players who could barely play are being punished because of a flawed ideal that all Legacy players would have maxed out classes/jobs and gill. this might be sound if it were true but it isn't. you have 10% give or take of Legacy players who qualify for this. so why do the rest of us have to be put with them?

    second if anybody argued being dropped on a random world before the offer for world transfer was made they didnt know about the world merge which is fair since a lot of players never bothered to even look at Lodestone.

    third there were players who did end up on random worlds after that offer closed regardless if you believe it or not. 6 of my friends picked Ragnorok and ended up on random Japanese Legacy worlds after. coming in to this thread thinking your knowledge is fact just because you spout off several things you know doesnt make it so.

    FACT: after the world transfer offer for Legacy players commensed many did end up on random worlds they did not choose


    lets also go into this farther. 2.0 players who made chars on Legacy worlds cannot move those either if what they announced was right. meaning players who chose Legacy worlds because they couldnt play anywhere else and put a lot of work into those chars are stuck and are infact victims

    see this snippit from the translated post on page 9
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Furthermore, it will be possible to move from a new World to a new World, a Legacy World to a Legacy World, and a new World to a Legacy World. In the future, we will look at economic conditions on new Worlds and plan on making it possible to transfer from Legacy Worlds to new Worlds; however, this option will not be available at the start of the World Transfer Service. We appreciate your understanding.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 10-03-2013 at 10:53 PM.

  6. #216
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    ArkhamNative's Avatar
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    Santori Zhonets
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    It's just sad when people lie to pretend they're the victim, rather than accept that their choices or lack of choices put them where they are today. And when they stack outrage on top of it and blame others... *sigh*...

    Some facts:

    SE never "dumped" v1 characters onto random worlds. All FFXIV version 1 worlds were in the Japan data center.

    When the 2012 world merge happened (still only one data center in Japan), new worlds had new names. No characters were "transferred" unless the player specifically requested it. For example, characters on Besaid and Fabul were now part of one world called Balmung, except for those who were able to request to be on a different world.

    The one exception was Ragnarok, which required people to specifically sign up for it -- no other worlds merged into it. The reason was "*Recommended for European time zone players." You had to choose to be on Ragnarok.

    When the new "NA/EU" ARR data center opened in Montreal (Canada, North America, to state the obvious), some worlds were "moved" out of Japan to North America. No worlds were "moved" to Japan. At this time (beta phase 3) v1 players were given the opportunity to move to a data center of their choice. Some players closer to Japan had characters on NA worlds and they moved them back. Some players had characters that *remained* on Japan data center worlds, and had the opportunity to move them to a world in the NA/EU data center.

    There were emails and announcements about this, but understandably some v1 people weren't aware, maybe changed email or something in the years since v1 launched. Anyway, those people's characters simply *remained* where they were, on a world that either remained in Japan, where it had always been, or was "moved" to North America. SE chose not to move individual characters or accounts because they did not want to break up LSes and friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    If you do absolutely nothing, you won't be placed in a random world. Everyone that was on that world, who also did not transfer, will be moved to the same place together.
    As for the legacy characters thing, we're still on the original plan of keeping "new" worlds "new". There's this SE post from over a year ago, September 25, 2012:
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    For those of you that have friends that are not currently playing and you would like them to play with you, rest easy knowing that new players will be able to select the existing worlds instead of the newly created worlds. However, in the case that there is a large amount of people who come back to the game and the world reaches it population cap, the regular rules will apply and there is a possibility that we will suspend new character creation on these worlds.

    Also, for current players, it will be possible to create a new character on the new worlds. However, existing players will not be able to move to these new worlds for a certain period of time.
    And lastly, the only "free transfer" currently announced is a time-limited, 5-day period, to make up for the launch overcrowding that forced SE to restrict worlds and caused players to be unable to create characters on their desired world. Otherwise, the world transfer service is a paid service. Characters from version 1 on legacy worlds is not an unexpected situation that SE needs to hand out free transfers for.
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    Last edited by ArkhamNative; 10-03-2013 at 10:00 PM. Reason: typos

  7. #217
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    Well I guess ill have to ask my friends to join me... since im on a legacy and they are not
    but I don't think this will happen since Excalibur has character creation restrictions on most of the times
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    Last edited by Becken; 10-03-2013 at 10:24 PM.

  8. #218
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    Vin Fyrerun
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    So my 2.0 character - that I could only make on a legacy server because all the new servers were locked to new characters even back in Beta 4 - cannot be moved over to a non-legacy server to be with all the other 2.0 players? Very disappointing. Boo to "looking into how to make this happen in the future." Please explain why this can't happen along with the rest of the transfers.

    And beyond that, when legacy to non-legacy server transfers are finally introduced, will they still be free for a limited time for characters created during that initial, heavily congested period?
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  9. #219
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    if u were new in 2.0 u had the OPTION to go LEGACY or NOT , why ppl choosed a legacy if they wanted to start on a new server or move to a new server later on ????

    A 1.0 player with 2.0 friends joining the game why they didnt join your server ? locked? all the servers were locked to be fair , mine (new) opened for some hours late at night , took my gf and friends 2-3 days of trying to get a character on moogle.
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    It was a character creation issue. Not to mention that I am an EU player with EU and NA friends, but my character was put on a JAP server. Also, I only jumped back on the bandwagon at early access. Some of my friends had already made and leveled characters in Beta4, joined linkshells and created a community.

    This isn't me being angry or flaming for the sake of causing arguments, but this is a Multiplayer game. If I can't play my toon with my frinds, then it's not a social experience. I have been waiting patiently untill now, holding out hope, but wont pay a subscription fee to waste my time. The free-to-play period was generously extended untill issues surrounding the launch and players being able to play on desired servers were resolved. For me, they will not be resolved untill I can move to a non-legacy server.

    EDIT: Ok I have read the above post and accept that my character wasn't "dumped" on a JAP server. Still doesnt change the fact that I have come back to the game as an EU player, to find my character on a JAP Legacy server, with no facility whatsoever to move to where my friends are. It was in part character creation and server population issues that prevented them from coming to me in the first place. Those launch problems affected 1.0 players too. As I have previously said, I can't now ask a whole bunch of NA/EU players to transfer to a JAP Legacy server just for lil' old me.
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    Last edited by chris_animeguy; 10-03-2013 at 10:27 PM.

  10. #220
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    Quote Originally Posted by delphinius81 View Post
    And beyond that, when legacy to non-legacy server transfers are finally introduced, will they still be free for a limited time for characters created during that initial, heavily congested period?
    I'm still hoping that new ARR characters created on legacy worlds will be able to transfer to any world during this first 5-day-free period, with a gil limit of course. That wouldn't unbalance the destination world's economy or make it "spoiled" for people wanting only a "new" world ARR experience (e.g. no Goobbue mounts). Hopefully the official transfer instructions coming soon will make this clear.

    As for v1 character transfers to new worlds being free or not, once SE allows it: they haven't said. Speaking only for myself, I'm ok with either.
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