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    Castillan's Avatar
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    Castillan Lionheart
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    Zalera
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    Playing as healer, from Australia, Garuda is near impossible

    Servers are in Montreal, almost at the antipodean point to where I live. So many people complaining of lag. I end up burning through all my mana most times before we even get past the first wave. I've tried this fight like 35 times now, all with no success.

    People say it's easy. Yeah, easy if you live near the server farm. Easy if you are lucky enough to get a party that doesn't all stand in the blast zones making the healer work overtime. Easy, if you don't get parties who all blame the healer 'cos they died.

    Seriously, this fight is about to make me walk away from the game.
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    Johra Burgers
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    It is a pretty easy fight... if conditions are ideal. For me the servers are just crazy laggy in general. If I tried doing Garuda before 4pm my time I would be in the exact same boat as you. After 4pm tho everything seems fine.
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    Castillan Lionheart
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    I'm sure people like to say "it's easy" as some form of troll. If something is "easy" then people don't fail it, all the time, and complain about it, all the time.
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    Mortimer Soldan
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    As someone who also heals from Australia I can vouch that the fight is easy. It's essentially a dps check, so if you're doing your job and not getting hit, than the problem is the dps. Alternatively have someone experienced call the attacks and/or follow the mob when they proceed to hide.
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    No problem on Garuda here, also from Australia. If 'lag' is making Garuda hard, than you better either have 800k for Titan or stick to Ifrit =/ Blunt but realistic.
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    Castillan Lionheart
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    My fights go like this:

    Tank grabs aggro
    I start to heal them
    Garuda aggros on me
    I kite and self-heal, and use Shroud of Saints to break aggro
    By now, party is all almost dead
    I heal them all back
    Garuda disappears
    One person dies in the blast
    I raise them, someone else dies
    I raise them, I'm out of mana

    Rinse and repeat the above endlessly, at various stages of progression

    At the end of the day, always getting aggro, always out of mana, people always dying

    It's retarded
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    Calyanare Vendaurel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castillan View Post
    My fights go like this:

    Tank grabs aggro
    I start to heal them
    Garuda aggros on me
    I'm not in Australia, but this is one of two things. Either the tank is not building enmity quickly enough, or you're using too strong a heal (Regen, Cure II) right off the bat (a possible third option might be that you outgear the tank by a large margin). If they're DF groups, my money is on the tank being bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calyanare View Post
    I'm not in Australia, but this is one of two things. Either the tank is not building enmity quickly enough, or you're using too strong a heal (Regen, Cure II) right off the bat (a possible third option might be that you outgear the tank by a large margin). If they're DF groups, my money is on the tank being bad.
    I don't know what to do differently. Tanks have 3500hp or so. Within 10 secs, they're down to 1000hp, and that's starting with Stoneskin on them. Have to lob off 2 x Cure II's, and then a regen to try to conserve mana, and then the aggro is on me.

    My groups are always pugs. I ask in my guild, and no one wants to go. They all say "it's easy", but not one of them actually balls up to come to help, leading me to think that it's all bluster.
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    Rakuyo Mitani
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Castillan View Post
    I don't know what to do differently. Tanks have 3500hp or so. Within 10 secs, they're down to 1000hp, and that's starting with Stoneskin on them. Have to lob off 2 x Cure II's, and then a regen to try to conserve mana, and then the aggro is on me.

    My groups are always pugs. I ask in my guild, and no one wants to go. They all say "it's easy", but not one of them actually balls up to come to help, leading me to think that it's all bluster.
    I'm gonna guess 3500 was just a number you threw out there, but if a tank in my party had only 3500 hp, I'd leave immediately. Unfortunately, using Duty Finder means you're going to end up with players that haven't even bothered finishing their job quests yet because they're too lazy. Not to mention the number of people who FATE to 50 and don't learn how to play.

    Difficulty amps up with primals over all of the story content. That being said, of course Garuda is difficult for a group of players with no experience with the fight. My big issue with using DF for any primal battles is that new people don't even take the time to watch videos and/or read guides about the fight beforehand, and it drives me insane. Once you get the mechanics of the fight, it really is "so easy." I don't think people are saying that to offend you or anything. Difficult fights in games usually stay difficult regardless of whether or not the group learns the mechanics. If you can win the fight 9 times out of 10 after learning the mechanics, the fight is easy.

    As for you pulling agro on tanks right away... Be careful with overhealing. You still generate the same threat with overhealing, and it's poor for MP efficiency too. This isn't like other games where you just stand there and spam cure and jump up to a stronger cure if cure spam isn't keeping the tank capped off. You'll be in a world of trouble when you get to Titan if you're still playing this way.
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    Mortimer Soldan
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    No problem on Garuda here, also from Australia. If 'lag' is making Garuda hard, than you better either have 800k for Titan or stick to Ifrit =/ Blunt but realistic.
    Just for the record I beat Titan HM a few hours ago, and can say that he's def. doable from Australia. Turning off HUD in graphics helped immensely in my case.
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