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    Animation's Avatar
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    Conjurer Lv 50

    Wow Square-Enix..

    I decided to do Behemoth, dropped out of my 30 minute queue in hopes to have some fun and obtain some horns.

    This refers to my thread about healers having no place in PvE and I think this proves it.
    I was there from the start, never left and didn't die, I always had a Regen on the tank + other party members. There was not 1s that the tank didn't have a Regen from me and about 12 Stoneskin's, I also put Virus on Behemoth whenever I could. And come to my surprise I got nothing from the fight, all I got was a FATE complete message. I clearly deserved Gold, no healer in my party got anything either.. How is this fair?

    The first time I did Behemoth was in a group of 3 people and I pretty much just spammed Aero and Stone2, didn't heal anyone once and still got Bronze, but this time I actually do very well and get naught? I am not a happy camper.
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    Last edited by Animation; 10-01-2013 at 02:41 PM.

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    Brises Ravenheart
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I have never gotten anything for healing in fates. I get gold by using holy or spamming stone II. Most of the game zero to 50 does not support party play.
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    ToraoKoga's Avatar
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    Cormoran Wilhelm
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Maybe its a lagging issue. Sometimes whenever I do fates from start, I get nothing , but not all the time
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    Neasa Vera
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    If no healer in your group got anything, neither did anyone else. -.-; Everyone in the group gets the same reward from a FATE. I'd hope you'd know that by 50, but it's pretty evident you're rather ignorant of the game mechanics by that other topic. :\
    If they got something, you did too. Check your inventory - The message doesn't always show, but you will get the EXP/Seals/Item reward.
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    Vesiga Cordelia
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    you dont have to do any dmg to the boss

    if your party does enough damage however, you could show up at 10secs left and still get full credit.

    your party however has to kill atleast 30% of its hp to get credit if they didnt claim the monster.

    simply enough your party fell short because it wasn't a full party
    get in a 8 man party
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    CronoLuminare's Avatar
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    Crono Luminare
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    Behemoth and all the other daily/weekly spawns need some serious work, I avoid them at all costs for the time being.
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    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    This isn't limited to healers.

    As a Paladin, I too got nothing. Not a bronze or anything. Just "FATE Completed" as if I had just walked on in, surveyed the battlefield and had a picnic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neasa View Post
    If no healer in your group got anything, neither did anyone else. -.-; Everyone in the group gets the same reward from a FATE. I'd hope you'd know that by 50, but it's pretty evident you're rather ignorant of the game mechanics by that other topic. :\
    If they got something, you did too. Check your inventory - The message doesn't always show, but you will get the EXP/Seals/Item reward.
    Not true. I have been in parties where people got different rewards. I only get a decent result in a party if I attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neasa View Post
    If no healer in your group got anything, neither did anyone else. -.-; Everyone in the group gets the same reward from a FATE. I'd hope you'd know that by 50, but it's pretty evident you're rather ignorant of the game mechanics by that other topic. :\
    If they got something, you did too. Check your inventory - The message doesn't always show, but you will get the EXP/Seals/Item reward.
    Seems legit. Everyone in the party got something but the healers. I'm not ignorant of anything, I made sure to ask before I made assumptions.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSativa View Post
    you dont have to do any dmg to the boss

    if your party does enough damage however, you could show up at 10secs left and still get full credit.

    your party however has to kill atleast 30% of its hp to get credit if they didnt claim the monster.

    simply enough your party fell short because it wasn't a full party
    get in a 8 man party
    Go back and re-read my post, thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    This isn't limited to healers.

    As a Paladin, I too got nothing. Not a bronze or anything. Just "FATE Completed" as if I had just walked on in, surveyed the battlefield and had a picnic.
    That's exactly how it felt to be honest. As if I just walked in.
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    Balaur Bondoc
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    There appears to be an enmity component to FATEs. You have to produce enough enmity to be noticed by a mob. As a healer, this means overhealing. Not just topping off, but overcuring. You need to be able to produce as much enmity as a DD in a fight, or more. Raising also seems to produce enmity. My sister does this on Odin/Behemoth, and it at least seems to help her get silver. Overheal people who have enmity from the big guys, and raise people when you can and heal 'em up.

    It is horrible that this is this way. Supposedly for 2.1, SE will be adjusting things for Odin/Behemoth to make them work better.
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