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  1. #1
    Player
    Darkoray's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/07
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    35
    Character
    Dark Firestorm
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    巴術士 Lv 50
    If its working I cant see any reason as to why its this way. End of the day in an intense heal fight you wouldn't be using shadow flare anyway and if you are DPSing for some reason you wouldn't really be using sacred soil. Both are different skills so there is no stacking of effects.
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    Marcusow86's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/28
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    170
    Character
    Natsu Sousuke
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Darkoray 投稿を閲覧
    If its working I cant see any reason as to why its this way. End of the day in an intense heal fight you wouldn't be using shadow flare anyway and if you are DPSing for some reason you wouldn't really be using sacred soil. Both are different skills so there is no stacking of effects.
    Although i do not know whether it is intended or not but i beg to defer. DPS and Heal is a totally different thing, you cannot say wouldn't be using this or that in any circumstances. IF i am comfortable with my fairy healing the first half of the fight, i have no problem dropping down a shadow flare to speed up the kill.
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    Player
    Darkoray's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/07
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    35
    Character
    Dark Firestorm
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    巴術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Marcusow86 投稿を閲覧
    Although i do not know whether it is intended or not but i beg to defer. DPS and Heal is a totally different thing, you cannot say wouldn't be using this or that in any circumstances. IF i am comfortable with my fairy healing the first half of the fight, i have no problem dropping down a shadow flare to speed up the kill.
    I don't disagree. I do the same thing. I was just pointing out they are different skill types so I cant see any reason they would cancel each other out.
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  4. #4
    Player
    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/26
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    830
    Character
    Reimu Hakurei
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:Darkoray 投稿を閲覧
    If its working I cant see any reason as to why its this way. End of the day in an intense heal fight you wouldn't be using shadow flare anyway and if you are DPSing for some reason you wouldn't really be using sacred soil. Both are different skills so there is no stacking of effects.
    Well, Shadow Flare's slow affects a fair amount of enemies, and Slow is effectively mitigation - and mitigation equals more healing. You BET I'm using Shadow Flare in intense fights :P
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  5. #5
    Player
    JonFarron's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
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    180
    Character
    Alistair Adfectus
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    召喚士 Lv 80
    That's what I've noticed... if I use Sacred Soil while Shadow Flare is out, Shadow gets canceled. o-o

    If I use Sacred Soil first, it doesn't get canceled. It's weird, lol.
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  6. #6
    Player
    HiliteOrin's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/29
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    52
    Character
    Hilite Orin
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    学者 Lv 80
    Another possibility that I didn't see mentioned is that the spells might not be cancelling each other's effects out, it might just be the case that the two animations bug out and only allow one to be shown at a time (I have noticed this, for example).

    The reason I bring this up is that I was just messing around casting shadow flare and sacred soil on top of each other while in town and always noticed this weird animation cancelling effect. However, I once cast sacred soil followed by shadow flare and (as usual) the sacred soil animation disappeared but the buff received from it did not disappear from my buffs bar. Unfortunately, I didn't think to test it further than this, and I'm at work now so I can't do so. Maybe someone else can quickly do it and come back and let us know about this.

    Either way, it is still annoying and a fix would be nice in any case.
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  7. #7
    Player
    Nailkita's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/30
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    154
    Character
    Nailik Kittykins
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 50
    As HiliteOrin said it could just be an animation bug, report it anyways, the main tell is that both put a buff on you when placed, regardless of if you're in sacred soil or not, is that buff still there?
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  8. #8
    Player
    Darkoray's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/07
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    35
    Character
    Dark Firestorm
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    巴術士 Lv 50
    Actually it clearly cancels the effect from the buffs bar and I have also tested it against single mobs and no damage will happen after I have cast sacred soil.

    I reported it as a bug but the devs want a 20 page report and I don't have the time atm.

    EDIT:

    Tested it again just now. If shadow flare is up Sacred Soil will cancel the dot all together, animation, dot off the bar and damage output, 100% of the time. I tested it the other way around and cast Sacred Soil then cast Shadow flare and the results vary it seems. Most of the time the Sacred soil buff will end when shadow flare is cast. The difference I can see this way is that the -Scared Soil pop up will show up, like when any buff ends. If its the other way around -Shadow Flare wont pop up but the de-buff clearly finises.

    On a few tries though the Sacred Soil buff seems to last for longer. This may have been due to my ping or lag however. I have also checked if it the same casting the 2 skills in different spots on the ground. Same results.

    So I think this is clearly a bug.
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    2013/10/02 18:02; Darkoray が最後に編集

  9. #9
    Player
    Suirieko's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/08
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    投稿
    674
    Character
    Suirieko Mizukoshi
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:Darkoray 投稿を閲覧
    Actually it clearly cancels the effect from the buffs bar and I have also tested it against single mobs and no damage will happen after I have cast sacred soil.

    I reported it as a bug but the devs want a 20 page report and I don't have the time atm.

    EDIT:

    Tested it again just now. If shadow flare is up Sacred Soil will cancel the dot all together, animation, dot off the bar and damage output, 100% of the time. I tested it the other way around and cast Sacred Soil then cast Shadow flare and the results vary it seems. Most of the time the Sacred soil buff will end when shadow flare is cast. The difference I can see this way is that the -Scared Soil pop up will show up, like when any buff ends. If its the other way around -Shadow Flare wont pop up but the de-buff clearly finises.

    On a few tries though the Sacred Soil buff seems to last for longer. This may have been due to my ping or lag however. I have also checked if it the same casting the 2 skills in different spots on the ground. Same results.

    So I think this is clearly a bug.
    Did you test it by yourself, or test it from another scholar and/or summoner?

    Basically what I'd like to know that if one scholar in the party casts Sacred Soil, and I cast sacred soil on my summoner, would that still cancel each other?
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    2013/10/03 20:44; Suirieko が最後に編集 理由: ARG GO DIE 1000 CHARACTERS LIMIT.

  10. #10
    Player
    Nailkita's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/30
    投稿
    154
    Character
    Nailik Kittykins
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 50
    Finally got around to testing this last night, regardless of which I cast first the other would disappear, and I'd lose the buffs. No other 50 SCH were online in my FC last night so I didn't get a chance to harass one to test that Suirieko, but I will check that, I don't think it wil.
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