Mount tilt feature: motion sickness and a plea for an on/off toggle

[SamSmoot]

I didn't think it was a problem until I stopped looking at my mount while flying.
It's not the banking in turns, but the fast, oversensitive movements, especially during small direction adjustments.
If a passenger plane made movements like this, the aisle would turn into a river of puke in the first 30 minutes.

Just eliminate it, or roll into the bank slowly during sustained turns. If your direction change takes less than 1-2 seconds, there should be no banking.

[Ainariel]

Square should reach out to someone about this one like they finally have for the eye strain

A mod responded to this similar thread in the Technical Support section today: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ble-mount-tilt

Their reply was:

"Good morning! Thank you for posting in the Final Fantasy XIV Technical Support Forums.

We appreciate you bringing this to our attention. It will be forwarded to the appropriate party. We apologize that the product you are referring to does not meet your expectations.

This thread will be moved to "Closed Concerns”. Thank you once more for visiting the Final Fantasy XIV Technical Support Forums!"

I guess that's better than nothing? Still, I hope we really get the on/off toggle.

[HeroofShadow]

Oh thank god it's not just me. My motion sickness has gotten a lot worse the last few years and now I can't use most of my mounts because I'm getting so nauseous. The Korpokkur was the one that I've used recently that didn't make me sick to fly. I really hope they can make a toggle for it! It was cool in theory but in practice it makes me so sick.

[Rynn21]

Some mounts, like the bikes, definitely look better. However, the chocobos are very jarring and it isn't mild.

I would appreciate either an on/off toggle, or an adjustment to the mounts that are tilting way too heavily to the point of it looking unnatural in the game.

[Ramiee]

It's because they all tilt like a bike on a bunch of stuff.
A chocobo tilting like that would only get realistic on an animal if it was a sharp turn, really should be more subtle lol.

[dreanor_noodle]

Joining the masses in the request to add a mount tilt toggle.
It is very distracting and tires my eyes fast

[wereotter]

for whatever reason, mounts in my game weren't tilting... until today.

now I'm with the rest of the people in this thread asking for a way to toggle it off. The tilt is so extreme even for minor directional adjustments and like others was starting to make me feel a little motion sick watching it. It's severely limited what mounts I can use, which was especially disappointing now that I can't stand flying on the new mount I just dropped 7.5 million gil on... giving an option to toggle this off would be fantastic.

Also for others dealing with this, I found the Pod602 mount is less offensive at this tilt than a lot of others out there.

[LianaThorne]

I didn't personally find the tilt weird or annoying until I random'd Garuda's horse. The way the tilt looks on those is so unnatural I thought the horse was going to flop onto its side LOL. It would be nice to have a toggle for those moments.

[KisaiTenshi]

I didn't personally find the tilt weird or annoying until I random'd Garuda's horse. The way the tilt looks on those is so unnatural I thought the horse was going to flop onto its side LOL. It would be nice to have a toggle for those moments.

That's the thing about motion sickness, is that you don't really notice it creep up.

Like in an actual car, reading or playing a video game in the backseat will do that to me. I won't notice it for about an hour and then suddenly the reaction is identical to a food allergy minus the throat closing up. In most "third party" camera POV's, usually it's not that bad because the camera and player character isn't "bobbing" (watch the top of the head of your character, it's usually very even while moving) If you switch to first person POV in this game, it's usually REALLY bad in some specific circumstances (eg the "flying orbs" when you're doing gathering, bob A LOT.) But when you pull out a horse in first person, suddenly it's even worse than this, because player character is pivoting from their seat position now. Other mounts like the car and the magitek armor also move in very terrible ways when flying. The armor always moved kind of funny on the ground in the first place, but they don't tilt on the ground. The horses do. The car's entire problem is that it pivots from the center, instead of the front wheels like an actual car. When the car flies though, yikes, it moves like it's on a gimbal from it's center. Even a JET does not move like this.

Despite that, I think the car induces the least amount of motion sickness while flying as long as you zoom all the way out before you lift off. Where as the horses and birds are now unusable and the tilting from the center makes it all worse.

If they want to leave the tilting in they need to move where turning axis is and make some logical sense. No land animal or vehicle is going to tilt unless doing a tight turn, and unfortunately the game interprets moving the camera quickly as "tightly turning" just as much as a small turn.

[LilimoLimomo]

Personally, I love the tilt; for me it feels like it's breathed fresh life into the way my mounts move.

That said, if it's giving people motion sickness, then that's a serious problem. I 100% support the addition of a toggle for this feature so that those of us who enjoy it can use it, while anyone who would be harmed by it can deactivate it.

Tangentially: after hearing about the motion sickness issue, I tried and failed to understand what about the tilting was causing motion sickness in some people. I don't experience motion sickness from FF14 myself, so it makes sense that I probably wouldn't be able to figure out what's going on there by my lonesome. But I strive to better understand others, so if someone who experiences this motion sickness is feeling generous, I'd be grateful to hear what about the way this feature is implemented and behaves is resulting in such a powerful reaction. To be clear, your experience is not on trial here; I already believe you, I just am hoping to have a better understanding of what's going on here so I can understand people and the world better.