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    [PSA] Don't solo fights as Tank when everyone else is dead at 50%

    Because all you're doing is wasting people's time. You aren't making the dungeon go any faster by flexing your WAR or Tank Muscles by self-sustaining from 50% to 0%. Nobody cares. It's faster to wipe and start again if that many people are dead before 5% or even 10%.

    When people do this, they detract from people's gameplay and might as well just have not played the fight at all - and I doubt SE will do anything about it considering they're dead set on making Tanks Invincible(unless you're DRK).
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    How often does this actually happen? I only rarely see it, and almost always think it's fine.

    It's fun to push yourself, it's fun to see other people push themselves. I wouldn't be on the ground if I didn't make a mistake, I don't feel others are obligated to yeet themselves off a cliff if I mess up.
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    You also give people a chance to learn.

    Personally, I have always asked my group (if I am confident) - Do you want me to solo, or do you want me to sacrifice myself? More oft than not they have been happier with the former since they can just view the mechanics from the outside and learn them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RamKat View Post
    How often does this actually happen? I only rarely see it, and almost always think it's fine.

    It's fun to push yourself, it's fun to see other people push themselves. I wouldn't be on the ground if I didn't make a mistake, I don't feel others are obligated to yeet themselves off a cliff if I mess up.
    I've been seeing it a bit more as of late - I must be getting weird people in my queues then. Still, I don't think there's anything wrong with people watching if they're fine with it - but more oft than not I've found 50 - 0% is 5+ cycles of the same mechanics and gets boring if you're doing nothing real quick after the first couple cycles to see how to deal with them.
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    Should have thought of that before dying! *indiscriminately aims aoe at others*
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    Quote Originally Posted by RamKat View Post
    How often does this actually happen? I only rarely see it, and almost always think it's fine.

    It's fun to push yourself, it's fun to see other people push themselves. I wouldn't be on the ground if I didn't make a mistake, I don't feel others are obligated to yeet themselves off a cliff if I mess up.
    No one is "pushing themsleves" by picking tanks in this game. You are not skilled. You chose a job that is unkillable.
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    I personally don't see an issue with it. Its not like extreme or savage or ultimate where it is possible to run into enrage timer and wipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RamKat View Post
    How often does this actually happen? I only rarely see it, and almost always think it's fine.

    It's fun to push yourself, it's fun to see other people push themselves. I wouldn't be on the ground if I didn't make a mistake, I don't feel others are obligated to yeet themselves off a cliff if I mess up.

    Happens more often with the new expert dungeons. They are pretty unforgiving if you still make mistakes because you are new to them.
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    Last time it happened to me it wasn't 50% tho, probably more around 30.. regardless.. I asked in chat if they wanted me to reset and they said I could keep going.
    At least I asked and they gave me their blessing.
    I would've reset otherwise ofc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    I personally don't see an issue with it. Its not like extreme or savage or ultimate where it is possible to run into enrage timer and wipe.
    Sure, but when people are trying to do things in a reasonable time Tanks don't realize that it's a waste of time to Solo a fight unless it's 10% or so. Even then, Tanks soloing fights shouldn't be a thing in general - it actually exacerbates the issues we've seen in Endwalker - and I'm not even talking about the Healer Strike at all, just Tanks in general feel like they're braindead now.
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