7.0 BLM Changes will kill the job

[MagiusNecros]

Could be worse. BLM could of gotten the Dark Knight treatment. Where it was entirely gutted, pruned and retooled and gave all it's toys to Warrior and PLD and tries to be both and fails at it.

Or SMN with it's rework and now has no setup and is all style and no substance. Makes for a good chill job requiring no brain.

[Zadood]

Be aware that when talking to an FF14 player, you may be talking to someone who cannot piece together simple math in their brain by themselves.

You know. you might as well better off became Nijisanji's Nijisister go out and harrass Vtuber and their fans you don't like.

Or better, make fun of Nijisanji's Nijisister if you want to.

Trust me you can get overdose of enjoyment through your rage-baiting at there.

[HighlanderClone]

You know. you might as well better off became Nijisanji's Nijisister go out and harrass Vtuber and their fans you don't like.

Or better, make fun of Nijisanji's Nijisister if you want to.

Trust me you can get overdose of enjoyment through your rage-baiting at there.

Is it rage-baiting to speak the truth?

[Fyce]

your flippant "omg just give it a chance" mindset is completely off-the-mark in this specific scenario, we're actively losing out on mechanics here, there's no new things to explore

Do you care about a random player's validation or are you posting for Square Enix to actually take your feedback in consideration?

If that's the former, then you're just here to argue. Which won't achieve anything and you know it.
If that's the later, then you also already know that SE won't rework the job for the end of the month because the forums had a few angry people.

Pre-release doomsaying is mostly pointless.
Having post-release constructive criticism based on actual gameplay is way more impactful.

But regardless, there have been quite a few examples though the years of people coming to the forums, going full on doomsay, and then the jobs becomes actually way more popular than before without SE doing anything.
There isn't much reasons for SE to act right now (they can't anyway).

[kidknee]

I will vote with my money, not pre ordering dawntrail. Unsubbing as well.
Don't enjoy the new blm.
EW blm was perfect.
I would be okay with a little bit finetuning of potency. Maybe after despair if they wanted us to cast a new spell with the new gauge, then have a potency diminishing return.
For example 3 fIV casts min. 600 pot
4 fiv casts 650 pot
5 f1V casts 675 pot
6 fiv casts 700 pot

[Zadood]

Is it rage-baiting to speak the truth?

Gaslighting the playerbases for making everyone thinking it is their fault for causing the current state of FFXIV.

If anything, he either is a rage-baiter, or he is someone just as bad and manipulative as Yoshida-san himself. Which means he is just as bad as the Yoshida-san who he make fun and criticized of.

Consider Yoshida-san himself did employ the same manipulative trick to use against the playerbase in general and gaslighted the playerbase for not able to "come together" when asked for do something about 2 min meta.

[Doublejho]

see this is the fualty part,
the "old way it was played" ios still primarily 90% the same for a majority of people in a majority of situations, youre talking about the non standard transpose server tick gimmick being removed,

and, by virtue of wording, "non standard" inheretly means not standard, most people wont notice a change



Because the concept of "server ticks" is an esoteric concept that is not explained in game, and can change player to player depending on their relationship with the server in regards to ping, packets, etc , and not inheretly intuitive.

except people ARE going to notice a change because the changes aren't just related to server ticks and will make the class even less forgiving for less-advanced players, your rudimentary understand of nonstandard doesn't give you the authority to say what will and will not make a change

[Doublejho]

Do you care about a random player's validation or are you posting for Square Enix to actually take your feedback in consideration?

If that's the former, then you're just here to argue. Which won't achieve anything and you know it.
If that's the later, then you also already know that SE won't rework the job for the end of the month because the forums had a few angry people.

Pre-release doomsaying is mostly pointless.
Having post-release constructive criticism based on actual gameplay is way more impactful.

But regardless, there have been quite a few examples though the years of people coming to the forums, going full on doomsay, and then the jobs becomes actually way more popular than before without SE doing anything.
There isn't much reasons for SE to act right now (they can't anyway).

what constructive criticism is there to offer? i'd love to offer alternative ideas, but none of the current ideas are well-thought-out and are purely a borderline-malicious assassination of nonstandard at the cost of any flexibility the class may have, the only criticism i could offer would be that these changes don't go through - except maybe movable ley lines, if only because it achieves so little that it's as inoffensive as the changes to most of the rest of the classes.
BLM won't become popular because of these changes, it'll remain unpopular for the same reason it's always been - because it's an awkward, acquired taste that turns away far more players than it retains

[GTK0HLK]

100% agreed to both responses ~Snipped Quotes~

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There are many people who, without any proper examples or understanding of the job, are just jumping in to say their piece.
(Ranging from effective random to well known players in the community)

Sadly most of their reactions seemed skewed, it's like they just fall into the concept that BLM some how sucks with how it currently.
It's like when you say something so much and it gets parroted ad nauseum, that people take it as true. Or they naturally get told or believe a few examples of bad natured BLMs is a representation of all of them. That they feel "good" when they "suffer". (if some of you read this as saying all that disagree, that the changes aren't good for BLM in the long term unless they plan to expand or revert somethings. you're Misunderstanding the Point)

They come in here unironically wanting the job to change what it is, when doing so would be like getting constant reworks like monk.(But what do we have here: It says Monk always gets a specific community interested in it, and doesn't expand much in its usage over time. It only Retains their DieHard Players. or Gets usage in PVP Cause of its Hard Utilities.)

The only ones that will end up playing BLM are those who already have been for awhile.

Those who got only a Granular or basic understanding of it may end up getting accidentally filtered cause of the changes.

(If being charitable. They Broke the BLMs Bones and Structures to see how we could potentially grow and evolve. but as we know the Random Heal Tick will only Really Procc after the entire .X Series is completed)

Players will still experience the "Slowest.., Leveling.., Experience.., EVER" and then Say "Suck It BLM" regardless. (Except Unironically, Unlike I do against Summoner.<from the pint 10k hr> FULL of irony, cause I know some of them aren't as enthused about their changes, but they can always wait and see their additions. rather see what has been gutted from them.)

Most<aka those who don't play> will just play the other jobs while they came to chime in their "IOU Gil Notes".
Rather than most BLM who know they will try it, and either adjust or head out til their leylines can flex harder than a Manderville.

[HighlanderClone]

Gaslighting the playerbases for making everyone thinking it is their fault for causing the current state of FFXIV.

If anything, he either is a rage-baiter, or he is someone just as bad and manipulative as Yoshida-san himself. Which means he is just as bad as the Yoshida-san who he make fun and criticized of.

Consider Yoshida-san himself did employ the same manipulative trick to use against the playerbase in general and gaslighted the playerbase for not able to "come together" when asked for do something about 2 min meta.

The current state of FF14 is in large part due to the playerbase though. The average player in FF14 is, shall we say, as human as ChatGPT2, and as mentally sophisticated as a decent fourth-grader.