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  1. #21
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    as long as people are greedy, these kind of scams will always have victims, so we're always going to have these scams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    as long as people are greedy, these kind of scams will always have victims, so we're always going to have these scams.
    This to be honest. Gil isnt hard to make. Stop being lazy and you wont get phished. We see this topic every week now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    Another victim shamer. See the post I made above. Scams are evolving and we need to keep up.
    Not my fault people fall for it. Even if a friend sent me a tell I am not dumb enough to click on it. It's not victim shaming its a thing called COMMON SENSE if you decide to follow such a link out of the blue then you deserve to have it taken. I mean if you really can't think for a second that something seems off then you just deserve it. Just have to think and be smart enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    Scams are evolving and we need to keep up.
    I wouldn't exactly call it evolving, this is literally the "hey I'm an african prince and I want to send you gold" email scam from the early 2000s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MontecristoSandwich View Post
    I mean, yeah, I fell for a Runescape item scam when I was 11, but even that was significantly less obvious than this, and I was a child. Online scams have been a thing for decades at this point; the only way this FFXIV giveaway scam could be more blatant is if it literally had "this is a scam" in the whisper. Someone falling for something this obvious is concerning, and certainly doesn't need an entire callout thread. This isn't 1995, everyone should know about these kinds of things already.
    You do realise you were not the only 11 year old to play games right? There are still really young people in game and old people as well. Just a few days ago we had a post of someone asking what class can they play because they are old with arthritis.
    Unfortunately its mainly those people that fall for obvious scams. Its not a bad thing to make a callout thread once in a while for the new people joining the game/forum, I mean we have actual ridiculous unnecessary threads going on for days that offer zero insightful material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    Another victim shamer. See the post I made above. Scams are evolving and we need to keep up.
    The people who are the loudest over shaming others probably have the most to be ashamed of in other areas and it's a way to compensate. Someone who is intelligent has no need to put others down.

    Like I said, even someone has never fallen for a scam in their entire life I can guarantee they've been stupid in other ways at least a handful of times. It's normal. I've never been scammed, but I'm sure it applies to me too. If people who get scammed are idiots who deserve bad things, then most of the posters on this thread do too.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    Not my fault people fall for it. Even if a friend sent me a tell I am not dumb enough to click on it. It's not victim shaming its a thing called COMMON SENSE if you decide to follow such a link out of the blue then you deserve to have it taken. I mean if you really can't think for a second that something seems off then you just deserve it. Just have to think and be smart enough
    Do you want an award for being overly paranoid or something?

    Most people, I would think, would trust something coming from a friend if they have no reason to doubt it. Can't fault them for that. Also as much as we can hope people are aware scams exist, you'd be surprised how many don't bother reading the lodestone on a regular basis or look into things involving this game.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 10-08-2022 at 09:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Most people, I would think, would trust something coming from a friend if they have no reason to doubt it.
    If a friend messaged me to say they were quitting FFXIV and I could go to the forums-idi.ot/FFXIV/threads/44222 to win 300M I'd be replying

    OMG
    Why are you leaving
    hello?
    John?
    Why are you leaving?
    Speak to me dude.

    Notwithstanding how obvious the link is (that -idi.ot/ stuff sticks out like dogs testicles) if it still didn't twig that they never answered then I'd be worried about myself.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    If a friend messaged me to say they were quitting FFXIV and I could go to the forums-idi.ot/FFXIV/threads/44222 to win 300M I'd be replying

    OMG
    Why are you leaving
    hello?
    John?
    Why are you leaving?
    Speak to me dude.

    Notwithstanding how obvious the link is (that -idi.ot/ stuff sticks out like dogs testicles) if it still didn't twig that they never answered then I'd be worried about myself.
    That's not the only link that's out there though. For that one specifically, yes. I will give you that. But you also can have people in your friends list that you aren't close friends with (taking me specifically I have clients for photography on my friends list for easy access to contacting them for bookings. I don't talk to any of them regularly but have them there anyway). If I wasn't aware to the extent that I am and got sent a link from one of them, I wouldn't bother asking why (because I have no relationship with them) and check it out under the assumption that they just sent it out to everyone on their friends list & wanted their stuff to be of use to someone rather than collect dust on a dead/deleted account.

    There's another scam that tells you to look at the forum to vote on or discuss something relevant to the game. It doesn't involve gil whatsoever (I forget the exact phrasing but can probably find a thread related to it on here somewhere) and that one is going to be harder for people to distinguish. Anyone who's curious about what the big story is will probably click to read it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    But you also can have people in your friends list that you aren't close friends with (taking me specifically I have clients for photography on my friends list for easy access to contacting them/me for bookings. I don't talk to any of them regularly but have them there anyway). If I wasn't aware to the extent that I am and got sent a link from one of them, I wouldn't bother asking why (because I have no relationship with them) and check it out.
    They are little different to a random then, no? Why would one trust them and blindly click?

    But, even if you do trust those spoke-to-once people, would your first action really be to jump onto a website without talking to them? Even a "Hmm?".

    Personally I just read the URL myself and see the -idi.ot/ part, but even without that I am not one to click on anything a friend has sent me without talking to them. To many decades of Aunt Mabel sending me "Re: Fwd: Re: Re: Re: FWD: RE: re: FWD: FWD: Re: RE: You won't stop laughing" messages encumbered with viruses taught me that.
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