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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Isn't that why it costs money? lol. You saved up 40m ---> you can get a medium house.
    Personal housing cannot accommodate for playerbase demand, seems like its a SE problem to me. What's difficult about throwing your money into a lotto for a chance to win a house again?
    This game throws gil at players; the only poor players are those that play poorly.
    And there's a lot of RNG in loot drops, especially mount drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    This game throws gil at players; the only poor players are those that play poorly.
    And there's a lot of RNG in loot drops, especially mount drops.
    So again, what's the difficulty of throwing your money at RNGesus? Like you said, the poor players are the people who play poorly, so they don't deserve a 40m house. Hell, if they don't have the 3mil minimum, they don't deserve a small either, right?

    However, the people who have played efficiently, and have saved up their money for a medium or a large, they should be able to get one, should they not? After all, they put in the time and effort to save all that gil.

    And yes, there is a lot of RNG in loot drops, grind enough and you'll eventually get one though. At the very least, you'll eventually get one if you do it consistently enough. Housing doesn't really have that chance when you consider the amount of people bidding on a plot. /shrug
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  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Housing doesn't really have that chance when you consider the amount of people bidding on a plot. /shrug
    Housing? Are you saying people have to place a deposit (not really a bid) in a lottery to get an apartment?

    People complaining about "housing" are really complaining about trophy housing (i.e., houses), not about "housing."
    SO, do they just want the big publicly-visible real estate that makes them special?

    Well, it won't be special if everyone gets one, will it? And if it's instanced, it's no more publicly visible than an apartment.

    So, what's your problem with apartments?
    Not as big as you deserve? Not ostentatious enough?

    Apartments were the fix SE put in response to complaints that there wasn't enough personal housing.
    Absent a compelling argument for why it isn't such a fix, that doesn't revolve around players who believe they are entitled to better, I don't expect SE to change anything about housing as it is today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Apartments were the fix SE put in response to complaints that there wasn't enough personal housing.
    Absent a compelling argument for why it isn't such a fix, that doesn't revolve around players who believe they are entitled to better, I don't expect SE to change anything about housing as it is today.
    I'll argue that it's more like a bandaid; it's smaller, you don't have the features of a regular house (garden, outdoor furniture, ect). Yes, the appeal is also that the house is bigger and you have a bigger space to be more creative in, if you want. I wonder, why doesn't it also apply to the people who constantly insist that they want neighborhoods because of the "neighborhood feel" despite wards being dead most of the time.

    The only real upsides of an apartment is that it's a permanent fixture and that's it's cheaper, of course.
    Also, at least in my opinion, I don't really care for the "special" feeling of it lol. I just like decorating, so it's what I do. I imagine most people who care want instanced housing, don't really care about it being a special trophy, they just want a big space of their own.

    Again, apartments were a bandaid, not a "fix" - a fix would be the personal housing itself. I think you and I have seen many, many, many times how people regard apartments as inadequate. Funny how in other games btw, this feeling of a house "being a trophy", isn't even an argument. Only here it is because SE flubbed housing real hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    No, amusing is reselling NPC vendors you've bought for 5k (THATS even written on them) for 30-80k xD
    That is such a dirty tactic rofl.

    Ex
    Player: Oh chocobo stable for 1 mil *buys*
    *days later looks at vendor and sees price*

    Player: #^#&$&$*#!!!!!
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