Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Liam_Harper]

Tell them to wait if they want to actually be raised. Healer LB1 and LB2 are trash tbh. When people cry to healer LB3 without it actually being ready, I just ignore them and wait until it is.

What annoys me most is people yelling at me to heal lb3 at the worst possible moments. For example if the boss is about to throw out a series of lethal aoes or mechanics to dodge and it's the worst timing to throw 4-7 disorientated players into without warning. So I decide to sit in the safe spot, let it resolve and recover the party in the calm afterwards ...and in the meantime that one dps is filling party chat with "LB3!!! HEALER! HEEEEALER! WTF LB3!!!". And then I get 0 comms after a smooth clear, probably because they thought I was slow and couldn't read and nearly caused a wipe.

-.-

[Averax]

Was doing the third circle for the first time today and my first group was just a mess. BLM would NOT move out of aoes, nor position himself anywhere near the rest of the groups\. Had to constantly burn extra resources to keep him alive, if i even could, and another DPS was d/c'ing constantly so we never had an LB.

After a few pulls everyone just left. Queued up later and it went fine, just fine. Minimal deaths and people doing mechanics well enough.

What is it with BLMs and just standing on the very edge of the arena. Is it so hard to stand within range of healer aoes?

[Chie_M]

What annoys me most is people yelling at me to heal lb3 at the worst possible moments. For example if the boss is about to throw out a series of lethal aoes or mechanics to dodge and it's the worst timing to throw 4-7 disorientated players into without warning. So I decide to sit in the safe spot, let it resolve and recover the party in the calm afterwards ...and in the meantime that one dps is filling party chat with "LB3!!! HEALER! HEEEEALER! WTF LB3!!!". And then I get 0 comms after a smooth clear, probably because they thought I was slow and couldn't read and nearly caused a wipe.

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The sorts of parties that you have to bust ass to keep alive aren't going to comm you because they don't even realise that you've had to bust ass. Don't sweat the comms.

[Krotoan]

Was doing the third circle for the first time today and my first group was just a mess. BLM would NOT move out of aoes, nor position himself anywhere near the rest of the groups\. Had to constantly burn extra resources to keep him alive, if i even could, and another DPS was d/c'ing constantly so we never had an LB.

After a few pulls everyone just left. Queued up later and it went fine, just fine. Minimal deaths and people doing mechanics well enough.

What is it with BLMs and just standing on the very edge of the arena. Is it so hard to stand within range of healer aoes?

[DontReadThis]

I've recently been leveling all my tank jobs, and I keep getting those infamous cure WHMs... in ENDWALKER DUNGEONS!
I'm sure I've had over 5 in the past 2 days. The worst part? They don't even use the freecure procs!
I even had one who would heal people individually with cure after AoE damage came out. The poor RDM had to resort to vercuring themself.

[Intellion]

Got Pandemonium 3 as DRK in Normal Raid roulette. The other tank was another DRK, the healers were SGE and SCH.
Before the fight begins, the other DRK tells me that he'll be the OT. I acknowledge him and serve as the MT.

I turn on my tank stance and pull. As the fight began and I properly positioned the boss, I noticed that the other DRK also turned on his tank stance AND stood beside me throughout the whole fight. Luckily, his gear was much worse than mine and his rotations sucked, so there was no way he was gonna rip aggro off of me even with Grit, outside of using Provoke.

However, not only did that "OT" DRK continue to stand beside me instead of stacking with the group, but that DRK also got hit by just about every single avoidable mechanic. Experimental Fireplume (big fireball)? Vuln stack. Experimental Fireplume (small fireballs)? Vuln stack. Divebomb? Vuln stack. AoE puddles? Vuln stack. It always came to the point where the moment the boss marked both tanks with tankbusters, the "OT" DRK would often get one-shotted by it, even at full health with mitigation, because he has like 3-5 vuln stacks. If he somehow survived the tank busters, he would then get killed by the powerful auto-attacks instead, because 5 vuln stacks. And just to point out, there was no "first-timer" bonus during that run. Also, no one else but that DRK died during the fight, and that DRK probably got rezzed like 6-8 times during the whole fight. It was probably only due to some force of will from both myself and the two barrier healers that I stayed alive as MT while also eating the auto attacks meant for the OT cuz said OT is dead most of the time.

And it gets worse. After the OT's fifth rez, he then actually started using PROVOKE during his rotations, which promptly forced me to also start countering his provokes with my own provokes, because I was not letting some doofus with constant 5 vuln stacks who can't dodge a single mechanic, to MT the boss and potentially sabotage the run for everyone else.

Once the fight eventually ended, that OT actually said "Great run, guys!" while dead on the ground, because the healers finally gave up rezzing him near the end. No one else said a word, and everyone else left quietly. By the time I exited, I got 5 commendations.

It's really stupid crap like this that makes me believe that nerfing Steps of Faith and Shinryuu were colossal mistakes. Those two fights should've remained as a natural filter for bad players.

EDIT:
Also forgot to mention this, but that DRK in question was neither a sprout nor a returner, which further reinforces my stance regarding Steps of Faith and Shinryuu.

[Jettinson]

What annoys me most is people yelling at me to heal lb3 at the worst possible moments. For example if the boss is about to throw out a series of lethal aoes or mechanics to dodge and it's the worst timing to throw 4-7 disorientated players into without warning. So I decide to sit in the safe spot, let it resolve and recover the party in the calm afterwards ...and in the meantime that one dps is filling party chat with "LB3!!! HEALER! HEEEEALER! WTF LB3!!!". And then I get 0 comms after a smooth clear, probably because they thought I was slow and couldn't read and nearly caused a wipe.

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I had a sad moment in Fourth Circle where pretty much almost the entire party was dead except me and a summoner. The summoner did a good job casting a rez on healer before dying from unavoidable raid wide attack and I was a dark knight just trying my best to stay alive.
The moment lb3 was ready the healer immediately tried to cast and was at the edge of the arena.

The boss was about to do a knock back attack and just killed the healer while I just did the mechanic. It was painful and a bit sad

[Packetdancer]

I had a sad moment in Fourth Circle where pretty much almost the entire party was dead except me and a summoner. The summoner did a good job casting a rez on healer before dying from unavoidable raid wide attack and I was a dark knight just trying my best to stay alive.
The moment lb3 was ready the healer immediately tried to cast and was at the edge of the arena.

The boss was about to do a knock back attack and just killed the healer while I just did the mechanic. It was painful and a bit sad

I've been spamming the normal raids for the past couple of days, as a way to really internalize sage's toolkit. I've seen those rare runs where people just delete the boss... and I've seen more than a few which, uh, let's go with "hit some snags". In short, I have cast sage LB3 more in the past week and a half than I think I cast WHM LB3 in the entirety of the previous six months.

My personal favorite was a P4N run where one tank and most of the DPS were tunnel-visioning on the boss during the Levinstrike Mekhane, and got deleted by the lightning. This led to a stumbling effort to recover (since the LB bar wasn't to LB3 yet); someone would get rezzed, sprint without thinking, and promptly get deleted. After a certain point, those of us still up were more just hanging on and praying the bar hit full before something unrecoverable happened.

So the third LB bar finally fills when only three of us are left up: one tank (WAR), the other healer (WHM), and me (on SGE). One of the DPS is going "healer lb3!!" frantically in chat. The WHM obligingly goes and stands in the middle of the arena, preparing to LB3 and save the run.

The WAR and I, meanwhile, run to the side wall where there's a little cape indicator; I could just envision the two of us standing by the wall and looking at each other like, "Really hope that WHM has Surecast off cooldown."

[ Narrator, as voiced by Jim Dale a'la "Pushing Daisies": However, the white mage did not have Surecast off cooldown, and all parties involved would very shortly be aware of this fact. ]

We hear the LB3 noise right as the knockback goes off, and the WHM gets yeeted into the death wall. The LB noise stops. The WAR and I skid into the center of the arena immediately afterwards, carried by the knockback... and I slammed LB3 the moment we stopped moving.

[Hausti]

When i did the third new raid for the first time on day 2, we had someone placing markers 1,2,3,4,A,B,C,D all over the arena.
They didnt say anything about it and then one of the tanks just pulled. Needless to say it was really annoying.
It is already hard to see anything in there on that orange ground, especially if you're new to this.
Even the other tank complained about it.
Waymarkers in normal raid dutyfinder... that was a first.

[Avatre]

Had a WHM co-healer(I was SGE) in P3 yesterday that was out of MP, yes...sitting at 0 MP, for a good half the run. Most of what they were casting was Glare...not much in terms of anything else that would need to keep them low on MP. They also only seemed to use Lucid Dreaming when they were at 0. We didn't wipe, though it was a constant "Who gets my raise priority now...the WHM or the SMN/RDM(can't remember which we had, but we had one of the two)?"