Has this Forum always be so toxic or is it only now that FF14 got all the WoW players

[DoH]

Yes, the fact that the forums are currently so "toxic" is the fault of WoW players and not the fault of SE who released a mediocre expansion that the majority of the players cannot even play due to SE's crappy servers. It's definitely the fault of WoW players.

[Vonleo]

People have to remember that these forums are for a very small minority when it comes to the actual community. A lot of players don't even look at these forums let alone post on them.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

There are toxic people on here like everywhere else but the silent majority are not toxic and chose not to engage in the madness. Please do not take people seriously, there are really nice and kind people here.

People in game really are amazing. Only ever had 2 issues with toxicity in game since June and they were both so minor. Ive made so many friends and met so many nice people. That never happened to me in WoW.

[thereal_aliceanders]

Forums are normally pretty chill. It just gets toxic when something happens and people start to voice their opinion and the Warriors of Square arm up to defend SE.

[Yahallo]

Point is though, I heard so much good about the FF14 community, but the forums are full of toxic people... Makes you wonder... And I know threads like this, because WoWs General Chat used to look like this like 24/7...

The in game experience tends to be a very stark difference. Most people don't frequent the forums.

[Kolaina]

What exactly classifies someone posting as toxic? I’ve seen it from every side. Whether it’s people crapping on the game, or people defending the game. It’s not necessarily WoW players. It’s not really any identifiable group of people. It’s people who merely express their opinion in a matter others take to heart in a negative manner.
I’ve seen “toxic” trolls. But I’ve also seen “toxic” people who believe they are the righteous defenders of the game, the community, or some principle.
Offence is taken, not given

[Warghoul570]

Speaking from personal experience this place has ALWAYS been a toxic wasteland

[Rage_Resub]

Because if its the second one, I beg pardon for my fellow refugees...

Though I dont know if the FF14 Forums directly after an expansion launch and the always occoring speedbumbs, that never change yet always seem to suprise people, have always looked like the WoW forums did after every expansion launch ever, or if this is a first time xD

I can't think of any game's forum that wasn't a squalid mess, and I've been at this over 20 years. In-game my experience has been consistently much, much better. I don't hold the forums against it.

[Youkulm]

The forums have always been like this. Anyone that thinks otherwise or wants to blame the WoW community clearly hasn't spent much time on the forums. The vocal minority spends a lot of time here complaining and always have since the forum's inception.

[Thaurnus]

Because if its the second one, I beg pardon for my fellow refugees...

Though I dont know if the FF14 Forums directly after an expansion launch and the always occoring speedbumbs, that never change yet always seem to suprise people, have always looked like the WoW forums did after every expansion launch ever, or if this is a first time xD

It has had the odd bump in the road in the past with a heated topic or two, BUT, I'd say it has nothing to do with the WoW players joining, it's more anger aimed at the company and it's failings.

Ofc, it doesn't help that the white knights are fanning the flames of the players that can't play, it shows a toxic side of players in this game that I've never seen in 7+ years, the "I'm alright Jack, I've got my play time, FU!" white knighting.
There has always been fanboys & girls but this is another level lately.