Patch 5.05 DPS balance discussion Nin+Dnc

[Neela]

Blm damage falls off way harder then smn and rdm when mobility is an issue tho yea all of them might have mobility issues but the difference in fall off damage when you introduce mobility is a different story. It takes a lot of practice and knowledge of a fight to get a blm that can pull off those crazy number cuz they exactly where to position to make sure they are moving the least amount possible in the fight

don't talk like we are still in AAR... first of all in serious content/contests like ex-primals or savage everybody should know phases and his/her place to stay. second blm got endless skills like player-teleport, Ley-lines teleport, swiftcast, triple cast, traits and stuff for his mobility, now even more with the introduction of skill-stacks. so please - your argument is so 90's... yet blm still deserves to be top but not that godlike he seems to be atm - no doubt.

mobility is a bad point these days.

[Trixze]

I will stick with it even tho they did not see a buff in 5.05. My biggest fear is getting kicked from groups due to low dps. I wish there was utility contribution added to the damage meters.

[Aomine1992]

Blm damage falls off way harder then smn and rdm when mobility is an issue tho yea all of them might have mobility issues but the difference in fall off damage when you introduce mobility is a different story. It takes a lot of practice and knowledge of a fight to get a blm that can pull off those crazy number cuz they exactly where to position to make sure they are moving the least amount possible in the fight

Someone already beat me too it but it’s no longer a true statement.

[Maero]

What’s BLM reason? DRG is OP but with the current changes SAM will beat it and MNK might as well.

But what is BLM reason for being so far ahead and don’t say mobility because SMN and RDM suffer from mobility issues now. If you say Rez it’s more of a gimmick then anything that could just be a role ability. Embolden could be argued but awthwrpact is negligible and ineffective. The other two casters have utility but that’s no reason to have
BLM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SMN>RDM

Red Mage has mobility issues? ,ok perhaps slightly at times but i do not see that so much. Smn i heard it has some mobility issues however.
As for dmg it is called utility, that is why Sam and blm do higher damage but jobs like RM, Smn, Bard, etc.. have utility they bring Sam and blm do not so of course.
I would however argue that Red Mage Embolden is not all that strong and smn can also raise so RM dmg should be slightly higher despite it being when of the easiest jobs.
Despite Cloude not agreeing with me about DNC, lol he is correct about blm

Also it is still the case with blm, you still need more knowledge in a fight to keep up those big numbers.

[Aomine1992]

Red Mage has mobility issues? ,ok perhaps slightly at times but i do not see that so much. Smn i heard it has some mobility issues however.
As for dmg it is called utility, that is why Sam and blm do higher damage but jobs like RM, Smn, Bard, etc.. have utility they bring Sam and blm do not so of course.
I would however argue that Red Mage Embolden is not all that strong and smn can also raise so RM dmg should be slightly higher despite it being when of the easiest jobs.
Despite Cloude not agreeing with me about DNC, lol he is correct about blm

Also it is still the case with blm, you still need more knowledge in a fight to keep up those big numbers.

I’m not convinced at all, @neela gave the correct response above.

[Berethos]

I hate you DNCs. Because of your job, Bard players like me lost our meaning in the world.

I feel bad for you, given that you based your entire meaning as a Bard on a mere 2% crit buff, and a 3% damage buff that was only every couple minutes.

[SilverMisora]

It's Yoshis cls - that's why. /topic

Yep, that's precisely why, and I say that without sarcasm. I mean no disrespect to our beloved Yoshi-P, but it has to be said. Sam and Mch should've been on the level of BLM due to them being greedy dps, with some variance based on mechanics. The reality of it is that BLM will be pampered, while the rest will suffer.

And don't get me started on this "nerf drg" talk I keep seeing. It's upsetting to know that people who don't know what they are talking about think they know what's best for a class, especially when the solution is to buff the under performers to where they should be, not nerfing the ones that have set the bar.

[Neela]

I wasn't meant with sarcasm either. its just fact : /

[Lina_Slayer]

Yeah BLM is so damn pampered this is why it was bar none the worst DPS in the game at the same point we are now but in Stormblood, this is why it was together with SAM locked from PFs for years, sure it is overtuned now specially compared with SMN (a job that needs all the love it can get right now and a job I woke up disappointed when I read the ridiculous "fixes" for the class) and RDM, but pretending it was always OP because of Yoshi-P is a blatant lie, if you wanna look for a job that was always OP look for someone carrying a lance not a rod.

[Neela]

this is why it was together with SAM locked from PFs for years,

are u sure you wanna discuss "being locked out of pf" with a smn main since late arr?... dont make fun of yourself...
that "once-in-a-lifetime"-decade (it wasn't even half a year) blm was off the table is laughable compared to other cls histories...


wrong argument u took here.


edit: idk if its coincidence but all 3 AAR base cls Paladin, White Mage and Blackmage are way ahead of their direct contesters in their specific roles atm...