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  1. #141
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    Edax's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    saying you will eat popcorn while reading comments...it is exactly the type of comment a troll would say.
    It's also exactly the type of comment a normal forum poster would make.
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  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    Well, it is a thing to have opposing opinion, but the dude clearly just wanted to troll the XIV community.
    I mean, ending your video by saying you will eat popcorn while reading comments...it is exactly the type of comment a troll would say.
    I believe the quote was in reference to asking Square to remove his video. This would not be a good idea. People need to see that this guy doesn't know what he is talking about (refer to my earlier post as to why i think he is not qualified in his opinion). People are allowed to troll and that's how his viewers and subscribers should know him "a troll" that way they don't take future reviews too seriously either.
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    You cared enough to insult her. You're exactly the type of person she's referring to, too. She's not being "holier than thou", she's pointing out that disagreeing with someone should not result in being attacked. Which is exactly what you're doing to her.

    Agreed! YouTubers actually research what they talk about instead of bashing players and devs that don't agree with the author's personal beliefs.
    How am I attacking them? Prey explain? calling someone holier than thou is an insult?
    and I only replied to them because calling out a whole community basically generalizing is a bit too extreme and quite stupid.
    And they're being attacked "lazy peon" because he's shamelessly bashing, nobody has to respect that and the fact that you and them defend that is asinine.

    There are a lot of video's criticizing FFXIV without resorting to insults and bashing and those are respected, rather than this one.

    If he wanted respectful replies, maybe he should have been respectful as well.

    and again, nobody gives a crap he doesn't like the game. Its the way he went about it.

    Though If I did give out too many insults. I apologize to them and you.
    Just thought it was too far to call out the community as a whole.
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    Last edited by xxvaynxx; 07-03-2019 at 02:57 AM.

  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    You cared enough to insult her. You're exactly the type of person she's referring to, too. She's not being "holier than thou", she's pointing out that disagreeing with someone should not result in being attacked. Which is exactly what you're doing to her.
    And the first commenter made the false claim that people expressing their disagreement via downvotes as "unfriendly" and akin to attacking someone. I don't need to explain that criticism is not the same as harrassment.

    Xxxvaynxxx may have used too many insults, but doesn't take away from their point.
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  5. #145
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    Stopped watching this guy's videos years ago. All he ever does is rush through MMOs to deem them worthy of playing or not.

    I'm not the world's biggest FF14 fan as I think the game has some pretty big flaws that should have been addressed years ago but that video is pure trash.
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    How am I attacking them? Prey explain? calling someone holier than thou is an insult?
    How is it not? Especially when the person is not behaving that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    and I only replied to them because calling out a whole community basically generalizing is a bit too extreme and quite stupid.
    She isn't calling out the whole community, just the people attacking TLP while claiming that FFXIV's community is one of the best. In other words, she's calling out hypocrites.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    And they're being attacked "lazy peon" because he's shamelessly bashing, nobody has to respect that and the fact that you and them defend that is asinine.
    I haven't seen the video yet, but I have watched most of his reviews. I can't see him "shamelessly bashing" FFXIV. Especially since he's done other reviews on it and they've been fair and positive.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    There are a lot of video's criticizing FFXIV without resorting to insults and bashing and those are respected, rather than this one.
    You do realize some people use snark and sarcasm to make their content more entertaining, right? TLP does this.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    If he wanted respectful replies, maybe he should have been respectful as well.
    Pot, meet kettle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Auryan View Post
    And the first commenter made the false claim that people expressing their disagreement via downvotes as "unfriendly" and akin to attacking someone. I don't need to explain that criticism is not the same as harrassment.

    Xxxvaynxxx may have used too many insults, but doesn't take away from their point.
    There was no false claim made. She pointed out that there are people asking SE to take down his video. That's not "expressing their disagreement" Actually go read what she wrote.
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  7. #147
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    Melichoir's Avatar
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    Whos this guy again?

    Being serious. Dunno who this guy is. That being said, even if I did, who cares what their opinion is at the end of the day. Much like anything, its ok to listen to people's thoughts on things, but if you absolutely decide not to do something because 1 critique said it was trash then thats on you. If youre interested in something, youll do the work and look into it yourself. If you decide you dont want to play FFXIV after 1 dudes opinion on the game, then you probably wouldnt be a good fit anyways.

    Been plenty of games that critics pan that are pretty fun to play regardless. Just play games you want to play. Simple as that
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  8. #148
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    Pretty much FFXIV only strong point is it's story and world building, the effort put into player models, how our equipment looks and skill animations, and the music.

    The gameplay itself is feels unfortunately quite monotonous, mainly because of the +2s cooldowns, even when weaving skills in between. Then there is how there is scarcely any random patterns during bosses, so each repeated battle is essentially the same... Not to mention the never ending fight with your own inventory.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    Been plenty of games that critics pan that are pretty fun to play regardless. Just play games you want to play. Simple as that
    Sort of related on the topic of critics and how things go but I remember Alita getting piled on and loving it and then Captain Marvel getting praised and I thought it was just okay. Or I have a guilty pleasure with Will Farrel movies but I don't think any of them get higher than a 6 in ratings lol.

    Some people just hate what you love XD.
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnix View Post
    Well, it is a thing to have opposing opinion, but the dude clearly just wanted to troll the XIV community.
    I mean, ending your video by saying you will eat popcorn while reading comments...it is exactly the type of comment a troll would say.
    The reason he says that at the end is because he's made other review videos where he was attacked, just like he's being attacked now, by that game's fans because he didn't praise everything about the game and had the absolute audacity to say something wasn't done well. He predicted how this community would behave and .... like Pavlov's dog, here you all are attacking him.
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