Glamour: isn't this what we wanted?

[Skivvy]

Well you could set up a plate with non DoL gear. That would overwrite the botany glamour but it wouldn't show up on miner or fisher

Deliberately applying incompatible glamours to reveal the original gear? That is a really clever idea that I haven’t seen suggested elsewhere!

I think if you do that you can also apply dye to the ‘failing’ glamour and it will display the underlying gear with the dye applied to it.

Thank you both! I wasn't reading the original suggestion correctly, so I'm glad you quoted her again, Iscah


Quick update: Seems this doesn't work It will grab the last usuable glamour plate that was attached to the shared gear. Good idea though!

[AmalahRose]

@Skivvy

Would it be possible to put your gathering gear in the dresser, create a set with the right look and then remove it from the dresser again?
I was able to do something similar by putting the ala mihigan earrings in the armoire, and when I took it back out of the armoire the glamour plate still worked as it should.
This might be a problem if you have materia attached though... as a last resort you could get duplicate items to store in the dresser

[Niwashi]

I am very new to the glamour dresser. The main classes I play are healers and i'm hoping to have a different outfit for all three healers. If i wanted to glam the white mage anemos set for my whm and use two other different glamour sets for my Sch and Ast what would be the best way to go about doing that?

• Put all the items whose appearance you want for any of the three into either the Glamour Dresser or Armoire, with the exception of any that are your BiS items you'll be wearing directly. Also include at least one outfit that healers cannot wear (a cheap low-level DoW set will suffice if you don't already have non-healer AF in the armoire).
• From the Glamour Dresser, click "Edit Glamour Plates" at the bottom of the window. Pick one of the 10 plates, and you can choose from among the gear in the dresser and armoire to put together an outfit.
• When putting together an outfit, on any slots where you'll want your equipped gear's default appearance, use Aurturia's clever trick of placing a DoW-only item (or caster/DoH/DoL-only, whatever, so long as it's not equippable by healers).
• Move on to a second and third plate to put together other outfits for your other healer jobs.
• Exit the dresser and bring up your Gear Set list. Right-clicking a gear set should bring up a new sub-command option for "Link to Glamour Plate". Use that to assign the glamour plates you just set up for them to your WHM, SCH, and AST gear sets.
• Note: In order for your appearance to change correctly, you'll need to be in town when you switch jobs. (Well, the full list is: within cities, the Gold Saucer, residential areas, inns, and the Ivory Chapel.) Glamour plates still don't work in the field.

[Skivvy]

@Skivvy

Would it be possible to put your gathering gear in the dresser, create a set with the right look and then remove it from the dresser again?
I was able to do something similar by putting the ala mihigan earrings in the armoire, and when I took it back out of the armoire the glamour plate still worked as it should.
This might be a problem if you have materia attached though... as a last resort you could get duplicate items to store in the dresser

That worked, thank you!!

Also, sorry to have taken over this thread with my lack of glamour dresser know-how. I do appreciate the tips though

[Vhailor]

People will alwayd complain this is a good step
No matter how many plates we get people will always want more

Are we giving out partial credit now? Gold stars for failing slightly less spectacularly? As Skivvy pointed out, the Glamour system in FFXIV - both the old and the new - are incredibly clunky compared to Glamour systems present in other MMOs, from F2P ones like GW2 to subscription-based titles like WoW and FFXIV's own predecessor. SE needs to be aiming for at least a C, not a slightly higher F.

They flat out said that the glamour system as it is now, pre-patch, was the first step to the new glamour system. Which with the plates and dresser is way better then before.
But I would have taken 5 to 10 more plates this update rather then the ability to remove items from the dresser. But I tend to only put items in the dresser that I might use or are special ones.
At least glamours can be tied to the gear sets this time. But yes more plates.

The pre-4.3 system is different, but it's not better. It trades restrictions, alleviating inventory space requirements at the cost of Glamour-wherever functionality. Whether or not people find it better depends upon their needs. Personally, I still haven't touched the Glamour dresser, because it's flatly inferior for my purposes. It doesn't give me enough Plates to Glamour the other jobs I'd like to Glamour (DoH / DoL), and my current Glamour needs don't overwhelm my inventory space. So for me, it imposes only a flexibility penalty.

Speaking personally, I also very much wonder why on earth SE isn't able to build this system out more fully right from the get-go. They aren't exactly adding on 'oh, nice to have' convenience features right now; they're still building out core required functionality. I'm not sure why they aren't making more progress on these sort of technical improvements to FFXIV - legacy crap, too small a team, bad management, whatever - but I also don't really care. They need to figure out how to get things mostly right the first time with new content and systems, rather than releasing the equivalent of barely-functional concepts and then slowly fleshing them out over the next year or two.

[AmalahRose]

That worked, thank you!!

Also, sorry to have taken over this thread with my lack of glamour dresser know-how. I do appreciate the tips though

Yay glad it worked!

[Ghastly]

Would this trick let me equip DOH/DOL glamour on DOW/DOM? Not sure I get how this new trick works.

[AmalahRose]

Would this trick let me equip DOH/DOL glamour on DOW/DOM? Not sure I get how this new trick works.

No, unfortunately restrictions on which glams can be seen still applies to the dresser

[Bourne_Endeavor]

People will alwayd complain this is a good step
No matter how many plates we get people will always want more

And they have every right in this instance. Virtually every other MMO has a superior glamour system to FFXIV yet we have the mess they've only just started fixing after four years. And what is their first fix? Removing a restriction anyone who took five seconds to beta test would have told them "destroying items is a colossally stupid idea." I had at least hoped linking plates to gearsets would lock the aesthetic to only that specific gearset. Alas, it still saves over pre-existing glamours. They literally did nothing more than make a system macros already did.