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  1. #31
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    Hyomin Park
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    I will sometimes ready check in 4-man dungeons if there is a new person, so ask to see if they want to ask questions about the fight or just go for it. I always ready check in 8-man content when I'm tanking, and I like it when tanks ready check in 24-man content personally. I go with 15 second countdowns, unless there's a NIN and I do 20 (since my nin friend groaned at me for doing a 15 once and I messed up his opener ;p).

    I don't really understand why this is a complaint? Wouldn't it be best to make sure everyone is ready rather than just assume? Because remember what happens when you assume.

    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    It seems to work in Void Ark. :-/ Makes me wonder what it actually takes to wipe in Void Ark now.
    You'd be surprised. The VA run I had last night, we wiped on Echidna. Tanks couldn't control Sinister and Dexter and kept them basically in the same spot the entire time. None of them were new.
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Ready check is a thing, and the people that use it are probably more courteous than you.

    Countdown was not meant to totally usurp ready check. As pointed out, they serve different functions.

    The only time it's somewhat irksome is when (usually in a 24-man) someone stops and does a ready check before each and every fight, trash and boss. If someone is suffering from that much of a lack of attention, chances are ready checks are not going to do a damn thing about that person.
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  3. #33
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    Luna_Ariana's Avatar
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    Luna Ariana
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Nothing against but if you don't like to use Ready Checks (Specially in Endgame Raids) then I would love to see how you would tank there. :x
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Tanks couldn't control Sinister and Dexter and kept them basically in the same spot the entire time. None of them were new.
    ...HOW? They appear to auto tether onto the tanks and ignore the aggro table. All the tanks have to do is walk away from each other. ;_; I constantly have full aggro on that add phase as SMN and I never actually have adds on me.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    ...HOW? They appear to auto tether onto the tanks and ignore the aggro table. All the tanks have to do is walk away from each other. ;_; I constantly have full aggro on that add phase as SMN and I never actually have adds on me.
    Tanks both stood in the same spot and didn't bother to separate. Even with waymarks down.

    They do automatically target the alliance tank, regardless of aggro, and you can't actually rip them off (unless the tank dies, I guess, then it probably goes to whoever was highest at that point, but I've never seen that), as I've seen myself be number 1 on the hate list and the tank is still listed as "A". Nah, these tanks just stood in the center. Unmoving. They moved the second pull, but seriously....?! .___.
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  6. #36
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    As a SMN it's infuriating when tanks delay so much before a boss. I often deliberately reach a boss with three stacks of Aethertrail ready to open with DWT and instead sit there watching the timer tick down to 0 whilst the tank initiates an entirely unnecessary 20s countdown.

    Some jobs need time to prepare, other jobs are massively hindered by such delays. Tanks just need to know how to pace for specific jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Tanks both stood in the same spot and didn't bother to separate. Even with waymarks down.

    They do automatically target the alliance tank, regardless of aggro, and you can't actually rip them off (unless the tank dies, I guess, then it probably goes to whoever was highest at that point, but I've never seen that), as I've seen myself be number 1 on the hate list and the tank is still listed as "A". Nah, these tanks just stood in the center. Unmoving. They moved the second pull, but seriously....?! .___.
    /pat

    I mean, I have seen if where tanks decide to tank them together and we somehow managed to survive... But...just walk away from each other. That's all it takes. ;_;
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  8. #38
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    Rai Dolabnha
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    Faerie
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    I like a ready check and then a countdown. My problem is when the countdown is at 2-3s and they pull. Like... why bother?
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  9. #39
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    Koda Ko
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    Spriggan
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    Thanks OP laughted way too much when i saw "ninja just needs 5 secs" LMAO

    Guys, do use a ready check then a countdown, please, even healers would enjoy it like your whole party.

    Be a nice guy, not an idiot that wanna save 5 sec for his opener and ruined the others
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    The only situation where I find ready check to be useful, is after mechanic discussion. Whether it be raid or trial and there is someone new asking for explanation. You ready check after it is done.
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