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  1. #131
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    Gardthorne's Avatar
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    Vanas Genei
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
    people lost their free ride. I can't help but wonder just how many of these healers are just mad that they lost their ability to watch Anime or something while in a dungeon...
    Sitting on your ass waiting for your mana to come back is literally a core gameplay mechanic for healers in a lot of other MMOs so they're probably upset they have to press buttons.

    There's no good excuse for a tank to complain about tank dps though. I don't understand the posters that want to 'focus on aggro'. You want to push button B instead of button A at the cost of being a less effective class overall? DPS is aggro.
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  2. #132
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    ShiloEET's Avatar
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    Nykova Williams
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardthorne View Post
    Sitting on your ass waiting for your mana to come back is literally a core gameplay mechanic for healers in a lot of other MMOs so they're probably upset they have to press buttons.

    There's no good excuse for a tank to complain about tank dps though. I don't understand the posters that want to 'focus on aggro'. You want to push button B instead of button A at the cost of being a less effective class overall? DPS is aggro.
    We shouldn't have to gear for dps instead of defense. The offense should already be there.
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    I don't think anyone can stop me anymore, except for god"...

  3. #133
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    Miyu20's Avatar
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    Akiko Viridian
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    Jenova
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Snippers...

    Heh. Wish I could go with you on those runs - but I'm from another world over :P

    I think a big thing is, different people have different definitions of fun. I get extremely burnt out when people are wiping to mechanics / arent' able on mechanics that I've already learned. Especially when they claim they know the fight / know the mechanics. I had one person who I tried to explain how the tether works to them, and they just insisted they -had- to have a shield up. People like that frustrate me as well.
    Get in touch with me on Lodestone through Blog or something. I would love to arrange DF fight together if possible.

    I agree with that. Some people are insufferable to play with especially when after 2 hours they are still messing up to the same mechanics or regressing. Probably tired or just in over their head.

    That's why I play with a premade non PF group if I want to clear something without frustration. Always have fun with those. Or learning parties. Have fun with learning parties because my expectation is not to clear.

    No expectations = No disappointment right?
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  4. #134
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    Gardthorne's Avatar
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    Vanas Genei
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ShiloEET View Post
    We shouldn't have to gear for dps instead of defense. The offense should already be there.
    Gearing is a separate issue from gameplay. VIT is just poorly designed.
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  5. #135
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    shao32's Avatar
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardthorne View Post
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    whe dont want to rip our dps, only whe want our defensive stats get the same reward as ofensive stats, whe dont want a redesing of the tank jobs, whe talking about stats no skills.
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  6. #136
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    Saccharin's Avatar
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    Blue Kitty
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    I would expect boost to defensive stats. Either in matter of defense or letting them boost dps. It's probably not going to stop tank/healer dps train.
    I'd like defensive stats other than parry!
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  7. #137
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    Elvin's Avatar
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    Elvin Rath
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    The ridiculous thing is having DPS as tight as we have, but ...Hey! Parsers are forbiden.

    Doesn't make any sense.
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  8. #138
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    Khemorex's Avatar
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    Khalindra Nela
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvin View Post
    The ridiculous thing is having DPS as tight as we have, but ...Hey! Parsers are forbiden.

    Doesn't make any sense.
    / shrug , parsers are not gona improve anything , it will only add more to the toxicity in this game :P

    for some people , helping in a none toxic/sarcastic way seems like an impossible thing to do :P
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    Last edited by Khemorex; 11-23-2015 at 02:33 AM.

  9. #139
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    Verius_Nox's Avatar
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    / shrug , parsers are not gona improve anything , it will only add more to the toxicity in this game :P

    for some people , helping in a none toxic/sarcastic way seems like an impossible thing to do :P
    Oddly enough, it's the ones not parsing and not doing good DPS that tend to be the toxic ones.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ly_preventing/
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  10. #140
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    Elvin Rath
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    Moogle
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    Alchemist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    / shrug , parsers are not gona improve anything , it will only add more to the toxicity in this game :P

    for some people , helping in a none toxic/sarcastic way seems like an impossible thing to do :P
    Parsers are not toxic by definition. Parsers are only one thing: Information.

    If you think that information is toxic,,, well, I think that you have a problem.

    Information it's always good. No one should choose to remain blind.

    I seriously doubt that there is a single group out there that has downed Alexander Savage 3 and at least one of their members isn't using a parser.

    Have you?



    Sometimes you just don't notice some things. I know that I thought that I was doing it ok in Titan Extreme back in the day, as a BLM, and I wasn't. My dps was like.... a 60% of what it could be. If I hadn't met someone with a parser who told me it, I would have continue that way, probably, improving very slowly because I thought that I was already doing it ok, as I was not dying.


    Sometimes you need information about if you are performing sub standard, at least if you want to beat the content more or less in time. Of course if you don't care if you have to wait till get overgeared or echo, you don't need information. If you wait enought you don't even need 8 players.

    But anyway I'm not complaining that there's no parser. There are parsers and all the raider groups worth his salt are running one, at least.

    I just was pointing out the insconsistance between a game with really tight DPS check and the rules against the use of parsers.
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