Will auto log out be reinstated for the expansion?

[Raist]

Again...SE basicly underestimated how many people were going to be trying to get in and just didn't have enough resources in place. They have since dramatically increased those resources (as in not limited to 5000 active logins per world like at EA, more worlds that are also on larger server clusters, dedicated lobby servers that only manage logins vs logging directly into your world service, more instance servers, etc.).

We are in a MUCH better position infrastructure-wise then we were in August of 2013.

[StouterTaru]

Queues weren't why people would stay logged in forever during 2.0s launch. It was because it took for freaking ever just to get a stable connection to the server so once you had it you'd stay logged in so that you didn't have to deal with the hour+ login/error/login/error fest that was 2.0s EA.

The auto-logoff didn't fix the issue though. Sure, it helped cut down the queue time from an hour to 15-20 minutes, but if they hadn't upgraded the infrastructure we would still see half an hour or longer of waiting to get in on heavy traffic times.

The biggest thing everyone is that there will be emergency maintenance on a regular basis for the first week, which will boot everyone.

[Fenral]

Most arguments against this seem to be, "It won't solve the problem completely, so far better that they do nothing."

[Rufalus]

It's beyond stupid to not have auto logout.

It adds absolutely nothing positive to the game to have your character AFK all day in Mor Dhona or your house or whatever, and it has been proven to lead to higher queues and server congestion both in this game and others.

I don't understand why they ever turned it off.

Agreed. Doesn't make sense for people who aren't playing to have a negative impact on people who do want to play. One of my friends was recently afk for a couple of weeks, only interrupted by brief one-minute bursts of activity every couple of days or so, and he would shuffle a few steps over and go back afk again.

[StouterTaru]

Most arguments against this seem to be, "It won't solve the problem completely, so far better that they do nothing."

Or there might not even be a problem to begin with, so why do it.

Or it might not have any effect whatsoever on hypothetical problem, so why do it.

Or it might make the hypothetical problem worse by forcing more people into the login queue, so why do it.

Or outside of congested zones, AFK people use up fewer server resources than they would logging in and out every few hours, so why do it?

[Elim]

Most arguments against this seem to be, "It won't solve the problem completely, so far better that they do nothing."

Many people for auto-logout are assuming there will be hour-long waits to get into the game, and etc. I personally don't think there will be. Just because it happened at 2.0 doesn't mean it'll happen for 3.0 esp since we've had upgrades. I could be completely wrong, of course; we'll have to see. We wont know who's right till it happens!

Anyone who plans to quote me saying every MMO expansion is plagued with login troubles, or whatnot, please don't. I've played MMOs where expansions weren't disastrous and there were no auto logouts at the time. The worst part of expansions that I've seen is exploits and/or bugs. Knowing SE the expansion will be swiftly followed by emergency maintenance(s) so if those problems do crop up they probably wont last long.

[Aitch]

Many people for auto-logout are assuming there will be hour-long waits to get into the game, and etc. I personally don't think there will be. Just because it happened at 2.0 doesn't mean it'll happen for 3.0 esp since we've had upgrades. I could be completely wrong, of course; we'll have to see. We wont know who's right till it happens!

Anyone who plans to quote me saying every MMO expansion is plagued with login troubles, or whatnot, please don't. I've played MMOs where expansions weren't disastrous and there were no auto logouts at the time. The worst part of expansions that I've seen is exploits and/or bugs. Knowing SE the expansion will be swiftly followed by emergency maintenance(s) so if those problems do crop up they probably wont last long.

I'm quoting you, not because I want to say that HW is going to be plagued with all those things you've mentioned, but to say that I agree with you with all my heart. <3

[JillyBean]

If they do, I hope it isn't 20 minutes. That was ridiculous. 2 hours maybe... Honestly, I hope they don't have to do this. Also I don't afk anywhere but by my house & FC house. Lavender Beds can handle our AFKs.

[Skeith-Adeline]

I'll just hold the camera control stick down with tape when I'm AFK.
/shrug

[Laraul]

They should take a wait-and-see attitude in regards to reinstating the auto log-out feature. It may not be necessary.

There we're ways of defeating the auto log-out feature when it was in effect. The easiest way was to hide the UI. Another way was to engage any NPC in conversation.