Why I think now is the best time to gear your gathering classes.

[Xenosan]

Just speculating, but my suspicion for both DoL and DoH is that Supra tier stats will be at least the lowest base requirement for lvl51+ content.

If it isn't, it would make the Mastercraft/Fieldcraft Desynthesis aspect irrelevant. I don't think they'll do that.

[Yumi_umi]

Then they will expect all players to have achieved a supra and some decent stats to start "leveling" up to 60. Then there would be no point in having a level 51 crafted hatchet recipe lol. What will crafters craft?
Being gated by supra stats would be a bad choice as having those stats to allow u to "just level to 60" is just wtf lolllllll
Imo the reqs for heavensward starting nodes should be have all af gear + af mainhand + those cheap lvl49-55 accessories & a 55 off hand.
So ppl geared up WONT have to waste gil "gearing up" as their stats will sustain them till later on ( maybe till level 53 etc ) and ppl will entry stats WILL have to spend gil/ craft their gear in order to keep up with the nodes.

[DarthBuzzer]

Just speculating, but my suspicion for both DoL and DoH is that Supra tier stats will be at least the lowest base requirement for lvl51+ content.

If it isn't, it would make the Mastercraft/Fieldcraft Desynthesis aspect irrelevant. I don't think they'll do that.

There's absolutely no way thats going to happen. Otherwise gathering would be close to non-existent past 50, for the entire expansion until it receives a nerf. Of all the mmos i've played, none of them have handled content like this, because if they did there would be a lot of angry players - and for good reason. That would be no different than locking heavensward behind i120 instead of i90.

[Lialiin]

on ragnarok forager set are still over 2 million plus all melds it's not cheap...

[Shadygrove]

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Right now, high stat gear is relatively cheap because you don't NEED high stats to access anything in the game....

You don't fish do you?

And right now, for me, being all BiS is paying off for MIN and BTN. I can hit the 450/450 nodes, and the only gathering food I use anymore is mutton stew, 16 gil from NPC vendors.

[LineageRazor]

You don't fish do you?

And right now, for me, being all BiS is paying off for MIN and BTN. I can hit the 450/450 nodes, and the only gathering food I use anymore is mutton stew, 16 gil from NPC vendors.

I'm at 112/112 fish caught, with fully-upgraded gear for all gathering jobs, minus melds on the off-hands for MIN and BTN. But I wasn't at max gear when I caught all my fish - it wasn't needed. Food took me to the stats that I needed to catch 'em all. I geared up the rest of the way afterwards due primarily to some stupid OCD thing, but partially also because I knew it could come in handy once higher level requirements became necessary.

Folks with CUL leveled can procure their own food cheaply, so the demand for BiS gear is not high, particularly on MIN and BTN.

[Zorlinta]

You need 400+ gathering for top fish, and IS needed BIS equipment to can reach that. You cannot do it without forager gear or Iron-Rod/Lucius.

[LineageRazor]

Again, you can reach the 400 requirement without being fully decked-out. You'll need some pieces, yes, but food and Free Company actions can take you the rest of the way.

But all of this is beside the point, because we're talking about demand for best-in-slot gear. While you need good gear to catch the hardest fish - who, exactly, interested in catching the hardest fish? Pretty much only the hardcore fishers are interested in that. That's a subset of the total number of fishers around, and probably a fairly small subset at that.

So the point still stands that BiS gear does not have very high demand right now, as it is nice, but unnecessary to obtain the best items for BTN and MIN, and while it may be necessary to catch the best fish, those fish themselves are nice, but unnecessary. Now is the best time to purchase this gear, as the demand will go up once there's necessary items that require the stats on this gear, something that will likely happen with Heavensward.

[Alberel]

Just speculating, but my suspicion for both DoL and DoH is that Supra tier stats will be at least the lowest base requirement for lvl51+ content.

If it isn't, it would make the Mastercraft/Fieldcraft Desynthesis aspect irrelevant. I don't think they'll do that.

Making previous gearing processes irrelevant is usually what expansions do deliberately in order to make it easier for players to catch up. If they didn't do this then after several expansions it would quickly become impossible for new players to ever catch up with the curve. Assuming the scaling matches with the combat gear scaling then the current best DoL/DoH equipment would cover you up until about level 55. Players below that gear level would be able to progress but would need to upgrade as they go, likely via new methods as part of level progression.

As another poster pointed out already, requiring some degree of endgame gear just to progress gathering (or crafting for that matter) into the expansion would be akin to requiring combat jobs be in full i120/i130 gear in order to be able to fight anything at level 51... It simply won't work like that.

[Xenosan]

I agree, there's going to be leapfrogging. That's expected.

I'm talking about Desynthesis though. Currently, Supra Mainhand (FC3x10+MCx3) and Foragers gear (MCx1 per item) and (Belt/Choker/Earring[?] FC1x10[?])are the only aspects of DoL that require desynthesis.

Can leapfrog the Supra and Foragers, but I bet we're going to land on another Demimateria-required turn-in or as mat for synthesis regardless (or Foragers/Supra could carry you through to the next tier).

Then there would be no point in having a level 51 crafted hatchet recipe lol. What will crafters craft?

Whether you buy gear or desynth > craft yourself, you are still passing that desynthesis gate. DoL is getting the equivalent of DoH's Masterbooks. Another chance at a Demimateria sink.

When they say "50-60 will feel like 1-50" that sounds to me like they're going to make the leveling process more difficult to compensate for the lack of new lvls (there's only 10).

And if that's how it's going to be, I'd expect them to throw some hurdles in the way.