The way people price items is laughable at best!

[lvlagmarink]

The sellers get happy with their income, the buyers get happy with their new stuffs, and the competitors get the joy of laugher.. It's such a rare thing eorzea can be a happy place for one day..

[LineageRazor]

Why is it that usually (on crafted items) the crafters name show's up, but other times it doesn't.

For example, about 95% of the glam prisms I see have the crafters name on the listing. But, every once in awhile, I see items listed that don't have a name associated with them.

Some Glamour Prisms can come from quests. The only one I can think of off-hand is the Glamour unlock quest, "A Self-improving Man", which provides the option to take either a grade 3 clothcraft, leatherworking, or armorcraft prism when you complete it. There may be others, though, I don't know. Also, as was mentioned, you can definitely get them from Retainer Quick ventures. It's possible some may come from desynthesis, as well? Anyway, none of those would produce a prism with a crafter name on it.

[Cuervo78]

I think the name also gets removed if you stack items or sell from a stack

[Gillionaire]

Oh wait, probably because it doesn't pan out like that at all, and you've just overpriced your item to begin with

Shhhh, it's an awesome strategy, let the resellers make artificial demand so I can keep unloading wholesale

Good strategy OP, keep doing what you're doing


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Well, apparently I'm at my max posts for the day.. weird

Somehow I don't you can realistically argue for the economic ''marketboard underdogs'' here, seeing how you craft 10 hours a day. So why then, do you?

I'm not really arguing for the underdogs. Rather, I'm just trying to show people, especially the OP, there are valid reasons why people might undercut in the market. Sometimes severely.

It's not for the lack of knowledge on the other party or their impatience, granted, it does happen.. quite a bit, but if you happened to stumble into a specialist market, more likely than not, the competition is simply trying to drive you out by either feeding you overstock at a higher price point than raw costs, or just generally making the entire deal unprofitable and waiting it out until the other party gives up.


I think the OP's attitude can be very toxic, it's like the fox and the grapes.. First, she accuses undercutters of being stupid and unaware of the market board situation, then she says she'll just buy them out and resell after they go to sleep and rake in all the profits. If that strategy really does work, then good for her. She found a niche market where the competition isn't so fierce that there's room to squeeze some money out of. But she found it necessary to bring it to the forums with this "issue" so I doubt that is actually the case.

So all I'm trying to say to the OP and the people with her mindset is, when something like that happens, instead of just assuming stupidity on the rest of the World, or getting herself into a bad situation by hoarding a bunch of hot potatoes, (which, if she tried in my market, will backfire quite badly because I always have more to relist soon after I make the sales) try to determine what's really happening instead of just coming to a one dimensional, emotion filled conclusion. Maybe you'll learn some new ways to make gil on the MB.

Maybe that's getting lost underneath all my sarcasm, but that's really my only constructive point here. Everything else I say, ehh it's usually just crap. That's why I even deleted one of the posts..


As far as my position for the "underdogs" go. I don't necessarily root for the underdogs, but I do generally want a lower price on the MB over all. Not by a steep price war between 2 parties, but with more of an overall acknowledgement from the player base that the current system (400-500% profit margin) is bloated. It's actually really complicated and I don't think I can convey it in words quite how I feel. But while I do make plenty of profit with the current system with its volatility and the price gouging and what not. My ideal market board situation would be a place with lots of generalists who sell little bit of everything across the board and prices are stabilized. That gets into my real life ideals of being an economic leftist and yet being a practicing capitalist, I could probably write a book about that.. If I could write

[Aeyis]

It helps the buyers. It also helps in slowing inflation. It further helps in maintaining a balanced distribution of wealth, making more parts of the game more accessible to everyone. In the end it helps everyone.

This is shown by the economy on Masamune. Where its nigh impossible to make the gil needed for a house. The end result of what you say ''helps everyone'' Why would you want an economy where every item has the same value as a NPC would buy it for?

Shhhh, it's an awesome strategy, let the resellers make artificial demand so I can keep unloading wholesale

Good strategy OP, keep doing what you're doing

Somehow I don't you can realistically argue for the economic ''marketboard underdogs'' here, seeing how you craft 10 hours a day. So why then, do you?

[DragonFlyy]

Money moneyyyyyyy monehhhhhh lol
As long as u sell it for more gil than u have used to obtain said item i call it profit lol.

This. 100%. THe seller makes money, that's all that matters. If you buy the low item and relist high and make money, then that is all that matter. Why complain when the undercutters are making you more money?

[Conradus]

On the contrary, that would actually mean more people would undercut since they'd pay reduced tax fees for smaller sales.

Correct. What upfront sales taxes would stop is people putting stuff up for speculative high prices, as people will be unwilling to pay a high upfront fee for something that probably won't sell.

[Gillionaire]

Correct. What upfront sales taxes would stop is people putting stuff up for speculative high prices, as people will be unwilling to pay a high upfront fee for something that probably won't sell.

That's not going to change a thing about the people complaining though.. People will still undercut and only thing it'll do is deter people from relisting the same item. Not like that'll stop undercutting from happening, I'd just use up an extra sale slot to relist a different item at a lower price and keep the original up there. That'll just make it easier for people with multiple retainers to compete.

[Rhas]

I think the name also gets removed if you stack items or sell from a stack

From what I have seen/done with the item name, if I have a partial stack with my name on it and buy pieces that automatically add into my stack, the name changes to my name (same with stacks of items that you can buy from venders or get with retainers) They can lose their name and become blank.

There are times I've bought up item on the marketboard (in low quantities, ie I already have 50 and I buy several smaller stacks of 5-15) and when I repost them because they went into the stack I wanted them to go into (through planning) when I resell them they have my name on them instead (or have a blank name when I choose) I keep several stacks around depending on what the 'goods' are.

[TheRogueX]

If the item is selling good for 90k, why kill the price? If you wait more then 2 seconds your item will sell for 90k as well. And I am just using that as a example, I am not going to say what I buy and resell because everyone would be doing it.

P.S. The moral of the story is have a little patience and profit. Because it doesn't make sense to work twice as hard for the same amount of money!

Didja ever stop to think that maybe the price of the object is trending at 90k only because people like you keep buying it up when it dips lower and then relisting it at 90k? Perhaps the resellers have basically decided the item's worth, even if it shouldn't necessarily be worth that, for whatever reason?