The way people price items is laughable at best!

[MomomiMomi]

I suppose some people may be selling at the housing area MB and may not have a vendor in their house, so perhaps it's more convenient to undersell on the MB rather than teleporting to a vendor in the housing area. Or maybe they're dodgy sellers who think that selling to NPCs is overly suspicous. I haven't come up with a sensible reason for doing this...

Laziness. There's no discard option when an item is in the retainer, so I just throw up junk on the MB for lower than whatever the current price is. I don't want to have to take the item out. I especially don't want to go vendor the item.

[Adera]

I have learned that only people that complain about undercutting usually undercut themselves, be it 1 gil or 10k gil. I take my time to study the markets, I keep track of the price of products I sell and everytime I list something, I list it by average selling price from a varying time range. Yes, it might take a while to sell items, even days or weeks but I do get maximum profit this way. Basically undercutting is a minor fluctuation in the market which doesn't affect me or my profits in any way possible.

[Gillionaire]

...okay, seriously? Something going at 15k one evening, and the next morning I log in to find the same thing going for less than one TENTH of it? SE needs to put bloody restrictions on lowering prices. Seriously. -_-

Then you should've listed yours for 12k hoping that somebody would see the price difference and just buy it out without waiting.

What's more likely is that there's simply no demand for the item and too much supply, thus you're going to be undercut before you're able to make the sale.

If you're a crafter/gatherer and that happens, you're in the wrong market, change your market.

If you happened to get the item while running dungeons, then what you've got really isn't worth 15k, you just happened to list it when there was a temporary hike in price OR there's no demand, in the case of the latter, just vendor it and move on.

I have learned that only people that complain about undercutting usually undercut themselves, be it 1 gil or 10k gil. I take my time to study the markets, I keep track of the price of products I sell and everytime I list something, I list it by average selling price from a varying time range. Yes, it might take a while to sell items, even days or weeks but I do get maximum profit this way. Basically undercutting is a minor fluctuation in the market which doesn't affect me or my profits in any way possible.

That's what I do with things like Materia or low level mats for leveling craft, where there's potential for one person to just buy out the whole market. That way, price is really not an issue, it's just about waiting for the right buyer to come through. Most people complain about how the market works and they seem to have a very one dimensional understanding and method of selling their items on the MB. That's the reason they can't sell.


Before I got into end-game crafting, I used to just quick synth nq ingots (electrum, mythril, silver, etc.) from mats bought from MB. Takes less than 10 minutes to do a full stack.
List the entire stack for about the 80 percentile price and just let it sit, it would sell within a week or so. I still do that from time to time when I go afk, I'll just process electrum ingots or some gemstones and quick synth it while I'm gone. Different items have different buyers with different needs, thus require a.. you guessed it, different selling strategy. Don't wanna put in the time? Well, time to move on to other things, money's not really necessary for most of the game content anyway.

[gzuscry]

Who gives a ..... what you you think of undercutters. Often time many things are not bought because of too high price and ppl just decide to do it themself in case of many low lvl raw mats and intermediate mats. And this is game by deffinition, you have no right or whatsoever to complain about free mb price undercutting to other ppl, you have no any lawfull or moral right to tell how to enjoy the game for other player. anybody can sell for whatever price they want to.
I for one appreciate the incoming tomstone analogus high end gear for crafters gatherers that will bring the joy and fun to many who want to enjoy those asspects of game precisely because this is supposed to be a game and not some hardcore free market simulator . I hope that will stabilize prices for high end crafted gear and items within reachable limits for avarage player. and that exclusivity elitist attitude should drop considerably. Wana complain about price undercutters? go take it to your local district court and convince them the time you invested in in this MMO is liquidable asset to real money vice versa, and that somewhere in TOS aggreement was point that covered your rights to demand some price agreement from other mb sellers.

[Gillionaire]

lol trust me.. if crafters resort to collusion, all the people complaining about undercutters will be crying their eyes out.
People that complain about undercutting is usually about things in <100k range.. Wanna make 20k more profit on your 100k sale and pay me 8m for a piece of artisan gear?
They don't think things through... Undercutting is tremendously helpful to the general masses because it'll make things more affordable.

[Warlyx]

The sad thing is that people actually do this and it seems to work. ;-p

not me , if i see something at 10.000 and another at 9.999 im buying the 10k item , same goes for other items , 150k vs 149.900....or even 149.000

sometimes undercutting sucks , but sometimes is a blessing (for consumables for example , im not buying food or potions that are overpriced ) , pets and gear i can understand, they last forever (gear for glamour once u dont need it anymore) , but consumables NO WAY.

[Yumi_umi]

Money moneyyyyyyy monehhhhhh lol
As long as u sell it for more gil than u have used to obtain said item i call it profit lol.

[LineageRazor]

If a seller puts an item up for half of what it generally sounds for, they have a reason for it. There are many possible reasons; maybe they crafted/farmed a lot of them and are trying to unload stock quick to free up inventory. Perhaps they sold it for that price once, and assumed the price is still the same now. Perhaps they got the item for free somehow, and don't need to be concerned with recouping the cost of materials. Whatever the reason, the fact that they put it up for that price implies that they are happy to receive that much money for the item.

If you want to try to capitalize on this, that's fine, but be cautious - if someone's put something up fer cheap, it may be foolishness - OR they may know something about the market that you don't. In the example of the "unload stock" reason above, once you buy that cheap product, expect to see another appear. Then another. Then another. Soon, you've bought out the crafter's overstock, making them ridiculously happy, and leaving YOU with the overstock instead. Now it's on you to try to sell so many items at your higher price. Good luck, especially now that the sale history is filled with lower-price sales!

There may be other reasons; for example, they learned that a new, easier source for Waterproof Cotton is coming, and are unloading their stock before other folks catch on.

Buying cheap and reselling high CAN be pretty profitable, but it's dangerous to assume that anyone who sells low is doing so because they're stupid...

[Aeyis]

lol trust me.. if crafters resort to collusion, all the people complaining about undercutters will be crying their eyes out.
People that complain about undercutting is usually about things in <100k range.. Wanna make 20k more profit on your 100k sale and pay me 8m for a piece of artisan gear?
They don't think things through... Undercutting is tremendously helpful to the general masses because it'll make things more affordable.

The net result would be a market like Masamunes, where everything is affordable...as long as it isnt vendor bought like houses are.


The majority of the people complaining about undercutting are talking about a high % decrease in the items current market value. I'm unsure why you are arguing the point you are, surely you realise this too? Undercutting like that makes markets incredibly unstable and liable to crash.
It helps noone.

Buying cheap and reselling high CAN be pretty profitable, but it's dangerous to assume that anyone who sells low is doing so because they're stupid...

Just as it is naive to assume they aren't.

[Able]

I generally don't undercut. And I never have trouble eventually selling all of my wares. Just gotta have patience.